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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>, Ben LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	Richard Jerrrell <jerrell@missioncriticallinux.com>,
	Stephen Tweedie <sct@redhat.com>,
	arjanv@redhat.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] swap_state.c thinko
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 13:32:41 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0104091316500.9383-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200104091816.f39IGxD16018@devserv.devel.redhat.com>


On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Alan Cox wrote:
>
> Given that strict address space management is not that hard would you
> accept patches to allow optional non-overcommit in 2.5

I really doubt anybody wants to use a truly non-overcommit system.

It would basically imply counting every single vma that is privately
writable, and assuming it becomes totally non-shared.

Try this on your system as root:

	cat /proc/*/maps | grep ' .w.p '

and see how much memory that is.

On my machine, running X, that's about 53M with just a few windows open if
I did my script right. It grew to 159M when starting StarOffice.

(I'm oldfashioned, and not a perl person, so:

	cat /proc/*/maps |
		grep 'w.p ' |
		cut -d' ' -f1 |
		tr '-' ' ' |
		while read i  j; do export k=$(($k + 0x$j-0x$i)) ; echo $k; done

I haven't verified that it gets it right. And that's not counting the
really hardwired pages at all, only th epages that might be pageable).

It would disallow a lot of stuff that actually _does_ work in practice.

But maybe some people do want this. I agree that it shouldn't be
fundamentally hard to do accounting at the vma level.

			Linus

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-04-09 20:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-04-05 15:56 Ben LaHaise
2001-04-05 16:05 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-05 17:11   ` Ben LaHaise
2001-04-05 23:40     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-06  0:32     ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-06 16:31       ` Hugh Dickins
2001-04-06 17:21         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-06 18:23           ` Hugh Dickins
2001-04-06 18:57             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-06 19:06               ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-06 18:47           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-06 18:37             ` Hugh Dickins
2001-04-06 19:09               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-06 18:53                 ` Hugh Dickins
2001-04-06 19:14                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-06 19:03                   ` Hugh Dickins
2001-04-06 20:03                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-06 19:12               ` Richard Jerrell
2001-04-06 19:52               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-04-06 20:22                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-06 21:04                   ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-07  1:27                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-09 18:16                   ` Alan Cox
2001-04-09 18:45                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-04-09 20:32                     ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2001-04-09 20:54                       ` David L. Parsley
2001-04-10 21:07                       ` James Antill
2001-04-10 22:20                         ` Jeff Garzik
2001-04-06 20:48                 ` Hugh Dickins
2001-04-05 17:21 ` Hugh Dickins
2001-04-05 21:39   ` Richard Jerrell
2001-04-06 20:20 Bulent Abali
2001-04-06 20:33 ` Jeff Garzik

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