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From: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Background scanning change on 2.4.6-pre1
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 16:30:08 -0300 (BRT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0106071618580.1156-100000@freak.distro.conectiva> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0106071345190.6604-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>


On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> 
> Forgot one comment..
> 
> > > This is going to make all pages have age 0 on an idle system after some
> > > time (the old code from Rik which has been replaced by this code tried to 
> > > avoid that)
> 
> There's another reason why I think the patch may be ok even without any
> added logic: not only does it simplify the code and remove a illogical
> heuristic, but there is nothing that really says that "age 0" is
> necessarily very bad.
> 
> We should strive to keep the active/inactive lists in LRU order anyway, so
> the ordering does tell you something about how recent (and thus how
> important) the page is. Also, it's certainly MUCH preferable to let pages
> age down to zero, than to let pages retain a maximum age over a long time,
> like the old code used to do.
> 
> If, after long periods of inactivity, we start needing fresh pages again,
> it's probably actually an _advantage_ to give the new pages a higher
> relative importance. Caches tend to lose their usefulness over time, and
> if the old cached pages are really relevant, then the new spurt of usage
> will obviously mark them young again.
> 
> And if, after the idle time, the behaviour is different, the old pages
> have appropriately been aged down and won't stand in the way of a new
> cache footprint.
> 
> Do you actually have regular usage that shows the age-down to be a bad
> thing? 

Fill the active list of cache and wait for a while to get the inactive
list full.

When that happens and pressure begins, refill_inactive_scan() from
try_to_free_pages() will not be called because the inactive list is full
(the kernel "thinks" we dont have an inactive shortage). Well, not sure if
this is a bad thing in the end. 

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  reply	other threads:[~2001-06-07 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-06-07 18:50 Marcelo Tosatti
2001-06-07 20:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-07 20:51   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-07 19:30     ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2001-06-07 21:08     ` Jonathan Morton
2001-06-07 21:05   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-06-09  3:26   ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-07 21:09 ` Andreas Dilger
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.31.0106081313500.3244-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
2001-06-08 19:20 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-06-08 21:27   ` David S. Miller
2001-06-08 19:59     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-06-08 21:47       ` David S. Miller
2001-06-08 21:51       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-08 20:44         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-06-08 22:33           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-08 21:10             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-06-09  0:12               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-09  3:48                 ` Rik van Riel
2001-06-09  4:05                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-06-09  3:46           ` Rik van Riel

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