From: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Slats Grobnik <kannzas@excite.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <andrewm@uow.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] a simple OOM killer to save me from Netscape
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 02:20:43 -0300 (BRST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0104150218170.14442-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0104150205210.14442-100000@imladris.rielhome.conectiva>
On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On 14 Apr 2001, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > That's not bad but when it starts coming to policy, the policy
> > decisions are much more safely made in user space rather than the
> > kernel. And we just allow the kernel to completely swap-out suspended
> > processes.
>
> You're soooo full of crap. Next we know you'll be proposing
> to move the scheduler and the pageout code to userspace.
To elaborate on that:
1) there already is lots of policy in the kernel (scheduler,
page stealing code, users can nice-down-but-not-up, ...)
2) thrashing and OOM are relatively rare situations
3) I can see absolutely no reason why you would ever want
to take a 2 kB piece of code from the kernel and put it
in a 32 kB userland daemon (which would need another 32 kB
of kernel overhead for task struct, pagetables, etc..)
regards,
Rik
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-04-15 5:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-04-12 16:58 Slats Grobnik
2001-04-12 18:25 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-12 18:49 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-13 6:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-04-13 16:20 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-14 1:20 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-04-16 21:06 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-16 21:40 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-04-16 22:12 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-16 22:21 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-17 14:26 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-04-17 19:53 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-17 20:44 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-17 20:59 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-04-17 21:09 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-14 7:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-04-15 5:05 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-15 5:20 ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2001-04-16 11:52 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-04-16 12:17 ` suspend processes at load (was Re: a simple OOM ...) Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-04-17 19:48 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-18 21:32 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-04-18 20:38 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-18 23:25 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-04-18 22:29 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-19 10:14 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2001-04-19 13:23 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-04-19 2:11 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-19 7:08 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-19 13:37 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-04-19 12:26 ` Christoph Rohland
2001-04-19 12:30 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-19 9:15 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-19 18:34 ` Dave McCracken
2001-04-19 18:47 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-19 18:53 ` Dave McCracken
2001-04-19 19:10 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-20 14:58 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-21 6:10 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-19 19:13 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-19 19:47 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2001-04-20 12:44 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-04-19 20:06 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-20 12:29 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-04-20 11:50 ` Jonathan Morton
2001-04-20 13:32 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-04-20 14:30 ` Rik van Riel
2001-04-22 10:21 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-20 12:25 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-04-21 6:08 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-20 12:18 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2001-04-22 10:19 ` James A. Sutherland
2001-04-17 10:58 ` limit for number of processes Uman
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