From: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
To: Philipp Rumpf <prumpf@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Byron Stanoszek <gandalf@winds.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] VM fix for 2.4.0-test9 & OOM handler
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:30:51 -0300 (BRST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0010101228160.11122-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20001010162412.E3386@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Philipp Rumpf wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 12:06:07PM -0300, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Philipp Rumpf wrote:
> > > > > The algorithm you posted on the list in this thread will kill
> > > > > init if on 4Mbyte machine without swap init is large 3 Mbytes
> > > > > and you execute a task that grows over 1M.
> > > >
> > > > This sounds suspiciously like the description of a DEAD system ;)
> > >
> > > But wouldn't a watchdog daemon which doesn't allocate any memory
> > > still get run ?
> >
> > Indeed, it would. It would also /prevent/ the system
> > from automatically rebooting itself into a usable state ;)
>
> So it's not dead in the "oh, it'll be back in 30 seconds" sense.
> So our behaviour is broken (more so than random process
> killing).
*nod*
Not killing init when we "should" definately prevents
embedded systems from auto-rebooting when they should
do so.
(OTOH, I don't think embedded systems will run into
this OOM issue too much)
> > > You care about getting an automatic reboot. So you need to be sure the
> > > watchdog daemon gets killed first or you panic() after some time.
> >
> > echo 30 > /proc/sys/kernel/panic
>
> that's what I said. we need to be sure to _get_ a panic() though.
I believe the kernel automatically panic()s when init
dies ... from kernel/exit.c::do_exit()
if (tsk->pid == 1)
panic("Attempted to kill init!");
[which will make our system auto-reboot and be back on its feet
in a healty state again soon]
regards,
Rik
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2000-10-10 15:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-10-06 18:59 Rik van Riel
2000-10-06 20:19 ` Byron Stanoszek
2000-10-06 20:31 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-09 10:12 ` Marco Colombo
2000-10-09 11:27 ` Byron Stanoszek
2000-10-09 16:26 ` Kurt Garloff
2000-10-09 18:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2000-10-09 17:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-09 17:25 ` Mark Hahn
2000-10-09 17:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-09 17:47 ` Ed Tomlinson
2000-10-09 18:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-09 18:14 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-09 18:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-09 18:52 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-09 19:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-09 19:38 ` Marco Colombo
2000-10-06 21:27 ` David Weinehall
2000-10-06 23:21 ` David Weinehall
2000-10-09 18:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-10-09 18:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-09 19:05 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-10-09 19:07 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-09 19:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-10-09 20:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-09 20:06 ` Andi Kleen
2000-10-09 20:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-09 20:12 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-09 20:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-09 20:18 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-10 3:23 ` Philipp Rumpf
2000-10-09 20:38 ` James Sutherland
2000-10-09 20:40 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-10 9:59 ` J.A. Sutherland
2000-10-09 20:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-10-09 21:52 ` Aaron Sethman
2000-10-09 21:54 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-09 22:29 ` FORT David
2000-10-09 20:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-09 20:58 ` Andi Kleen
2000-10-09 21:21 ` Jim Gettys
2000-10-09 21:28 ` Alan Cox
2000-10-09 21:34 ` Andi Kleen
2000-10-09 21:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-09 21:39 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-09 21:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-10 13:17 ` Marco Colombo
2000-10-09 21:44 ` Jim Gettys
2000-10-09 21:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-09 22:07 ` Jim Gettys
2000-10-09 23:13 ` Albert D. Cahalan
2000-10-09 23:16 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-09 23:46 ` Jim Gettys
2000-10-10 9:46 ` Jamie Lokier
2000-10-10 14:41 ` Rogier Wolff
2000-10-10 17:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-09 21:51 ` Alan Cox
2000-10-09 21:40 ` Jim Gettys
2000-10-09 21:05 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-09 22:08 ` Gerrit.Huizenga
2000-10-09 22:34 ` Byron Stanoszek
2000-10-09 22:57 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-10 0:25 ` [RFC] New ideas for the " Byron Stanoszek
2000-10-09 20:11 ` [PATCH] VM fix for 2.4.0-test9 & " Andrea Arcangeli
2000-10-09 20:15 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-09 20:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-09 20:47 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-09 20:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-09 21:10 ` Peter Waltenberg
2000-10-09 22:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-10-09 22:59 ` Peter Waltenberg
2000-10-09 23:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-10-09 23:10 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-09 21:10 ` Alan Cox
2000-10-09 21:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-09 21:26 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-09 21:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-09 21:34 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-10 9:09 ` john slee
2000-10-09 20:06 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-09 20:18 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-10-10 3:29 ` Philipp Rumpf
2000-10-10 15:06 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-10 15:24 ` Philipp Rumpf
2000-10-10 15:30 ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2000-10-10 15:37 ` Philipp Rumpf
2000-10-09 20:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-09 20:08 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-09 20:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-09 20:28 ` David Ford
2000-10-09 20:34 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-09 20:45 ` David Ford
2000-10-10 4:22 ` Andreas Dilger
2000-10-10 4:30 ` David Ford
2000-10-10 9:54 ` Jamie Lokier
2000-10-09 23:35 ` Ingo Oeser
2000-10-10 15:07 ` [PATCH] OOM killer API (was: [PATCH] VM fix for 2.4.0-test9 & OOM handler) Ingo Oeser
2000-10-10 15:32 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-10 16:11 ` Ingo Oeser
2000-10-10 18:57 ` Tom Rini
2000-10-10 20:58 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-10 22:46 ` Tom Rini
2000-10-09 19:30 ` [PATCH] VM fix for 2.4.0-test9 & OOM handler David Ford
2000-10-09 19:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-10-09 20:14 ` David Ford
2000-10-09 20:05 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-09 21:07 ` Alan Cox
2000-10-10 3:38 ` Philipp Rumpf
2000-10-10 14:07 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-10-09 18:07 Wagner, Dave
2000-10-09 20:27 ` James Sutherland
2000-10-09 19:06 Hubertus Franke/Watson/IBM
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