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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
	MM mailing list <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [highmem bug report against -test5 and -test6] Re: [PATCH] Re: simple FS application that hangs 2.4-test5, mem mgmt problem or FS buffer cache mgmt problem? (fwd)
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 00:53:09 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0010030038370.16056-100000@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0010021849120.1067-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva>

On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Rik van Riel wrote:

> > yep, this would be nice, but i think it will be quite tough to
> > balance this properly. There are two kinds of bhs in this aging
> > scheme: 'normal' bhs (metadata), and 'virtual' bhs (aliased to a
> > page). Freeing a 'normal' bh will get rid of the bh, and will

> This is easy. Normal page aging will take care of the buffermem pages.
> Freeing the buffer heads on pagecache pages is the only thing we need
> to do in refill_inactive_scan.

to do some sort of aging is of course easy. But to treat a 4kbyte
'metadata bh' the same way as a 80 bytes worth 'cached mapping bh' is IMO
a stretch. This is what i ment by 'tough to balance properly'.

> > another thing is the complexity of marking a page dirty - right
> > now we can assume that page->buffers holds all the blocks. With
> > aging we must check wether a bh is there or not,
> 
> The code must already be able to handle this. This is nothing new.

sure this is new. The page->buffers list right now is assumed to stay
constant after being created.

> > i'd love to have all the cached objects within the system on a
> > global, size-neutral LRU list. (or at least attach a
> > last-accessed timestamp to them.) This way we could synchronize
> > the pagecache, inode/dentry and buffer-cache LRU lists.
> 
> s/LRU/page aging/   ;)

no - how does this handle the inode/dentry cache? Making everything a page
is a mistake.

	Ingo

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  reply	other threads:[~2000-10-02 22:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-10-02 19:35 Rik van Riel
2000-10-02 19:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-10-02 19:59   ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-02 20:17     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-10-02 20:24       ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-02 21:16     ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-02 20:06   ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-02 20:16     ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-02 20:25     ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-02 20:45       ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-02 21:21         ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-02 21:27           ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-02 21:19       ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-02 21:23         ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-02 21:31           ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-02 21:42             ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-02 21:58               ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-02 22:08                 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-02 22:18                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-10-02 22:23                     ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-02 23:06                     ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-02 23:12                       ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-02 23:16                         ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-02 23:20                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-10-02 22:53                   ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-02 23:06                     ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-02 23:14                       ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-02 21:57         ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-02 21:52           ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-02 22:53             ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2000-10-02 23:01               ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-02 23:10                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-10-02 23:29                 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-10-02 23:25                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-10-02 23:32                     ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-03 12:05                     ` Ingo Molnar

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