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From: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: "Juan J. Quintela" <quintela@fi.udc.es>,
	"Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>, Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>,
	Derek Martin <derek@cerberus.ne.mediaone.net>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] 2.2.17pre7 VM enhancement Re: I/O performance on 2.4.0-test2
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 14:45:18 -0300 (BRST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007111442150.10961-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0007111917240.3644-100000@inspiron.random>

On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On 11 Jul 2000, Juan J. Quintela wrote:
> 
> >I agree with Stephen here, if my cache page is older than my mmaped vi
> >page, I want to unmap first the vi page.
> 
> You said it in the other way around ;) but never mind I got your point
> indeed.
> 
> With the logic "if my cache page is younger than my mmaped vi page, I want
> to unmap first the vi page" then when you'll run:
> 
> 	cp /dev/zero .
> 
> and you'll start hanging in gnus, while switching desktop, while
> switching window, while pressing a key in bash, and indeed also
> while pressing a key in vi. For what?

This is why LRU is wrong and we need page aging (which
approximates both LRU and NFU).

The idea is to remove those pages from memory which will
not be used again for the longest time, regardless of in
which 'state' they live in main memory.

(and proper page aging is a good approximation to this)

regards,

Rik
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  reply	other threads:[~2000-07-11 17:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20000629114407.A3914@redhat.com>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.21.0006291330520.1713-100000@inspiron.random>
2000-06-29 13:00   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-07-06 10:35     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-07-06 13:29       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-07-09 17:11         ` Swap clustering with new VM Marcelo Tosatti
2000-07-09 20:53           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-07-11  9:36             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-07-09 20:31         ` [PATCH] 2.2.17pre7 VM enhancement Re: I/O performance on 2.4.0-test2 Andrea Arcangeli
2000-07-11 11:50           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-07-11 16:17             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-07-11 16:36               ` Juan J. Quintela
2000-07-11 17:33                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-07-11 17:45                   ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2000-07-11 17:54                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-07-11 18:03                       ` Juan J. Quintela
2000-07-11 19:32                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-07-12  0:05                           ` John Alvord
2000-07-12  0:52                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-07-12 18:02                             ` Rik van Riel
2000-07-14  8:51               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-07-11 17:32           ` Rik van Riel
2000-07-11 17:41             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-07-11 17:47               ` Rik van Riel
2000-07-11 18:00                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-07-11 18:06                   ` Rik van Riel
2000-07-17  7:09                     ` [PATCH] 2.2.17pre7 VM enhancement Re: I/O performance on Yannis Smaragdakis
2000-07-17  9:28                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-07-17 13:01                         ` James Manning
2000-07-17 14:32                           ` Scott F. Kaplan
2000-07-17 14:53                         ` Rik van Riel
2000-07-17 16:44                           ` Manfred Spraul
2000-07-17 17:02                             ` Rik van Riel
2000-07-17 18:55                           ` Yannis Smaragdakis
2000-07-17 19:57                           ` John Fremlin
2000-07-17 14:46                       ` Alan Cox
2000-07-17 14:55                         ` Scott F. Kaplan
2000-07-17 15:31                           ` Rik van Riel
2000-07-14  9:01                   ` [PATCH] 2.2.17pre7 VM enhancement Re: I/O performance on 2.4.0-test2 Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-07-11 18:13               ` Juan J. Quintela
2000-07-11 20:57                 ` Roger Larsson
2000-07-11 22:49                   ` Juan J. Quintela
2000-07-12 16:01               ` Kev
2000-07-06 13:54       ` [PATCH] 2.2.17pre7 VM enhancement Re: I/O performance on2.4.0-test2 Roman Zippel

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