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From: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
To: "Juan J. Quintela" <quintela@fi.udc.es>
Cc: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>,
	Hans Reiser <hans@reiser.to>, bert hubert <ahu@ds9a.nl>,
	linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu, Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Alexander Zarochentcev <zam@odintsovo.comcor.ru>
Subject: Re: journaling & VM  (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel: it'snot just the code)
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 18:14:53 -0300 (BRST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0006071808300.14304-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ytt1z29dxce.fsf@serpe.mitica>

On 7 Jun 2000, Juan J. Quintela wrote:
> >>>>> "sct" == Stephen C Tweedie <sct@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> >> I'd like to be able to keep stuff simple in the shrink_mmap
> >> "equivalent" I'm working on. Something like:
> >> 
> >> if (PageDirty(page) && page->mapping && page->mapping->flush)
> >> maxlaunder -= page->mapping->flush();
> 
> sct> That looks ideal.
> 
> But this is supposed to flush that _page_, at least in the
> normal case.

But not *just* that page ...

In the ideal case the flush() function will search around
memory for objects to cluster and write out together with
this page.

I'll probably write an example page->mapping->flush()
function for swap. The function will do the following:
- find other swap pages to cluster with this page,
  those must be:
	- contiguous with this page
	- inactive or seldomly used active pages
	- dirty (duh)
- flush out the collection of pages
- return the number of INACTIVE pages we flushed,
  ignoring the number of active pages

That last point is very important because:
- if we mainly flushed active pages, we should not give
  shrink_mmap (or similar) the illusion that we cleared
  up the inactive list ... don't pretend we made a lot
  of progress cleaning inactive pages if we didn't
- since we wrote the pages in the same disk seek, writing
  the active pages was essentially for free so it doesn't
  matter that we don't report having written them ...
  (having written that page and potentially saving some IO
  later, otoh, definately does matter)

regards,

Rik
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  reply	other threads:[~2000-06-07 21:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.10.10006060811120.15888-100000@dax.joh.cam.ac.uk>
     [not found] ` <393CA40C.648D3261@reiser.to>
     [not found]   ` <20000606114851.A30672@home.ds9a.nl>
     [not found]     ` <393CBBB8.554A0D2A@reiser.to>
     [not found]       ` <20000606172606.I25794@redhat.com>
     [not found]         ` <393D37D1.1BC61DC3@reiser.to>
     [not found]           ` <20000606205447.T23701@redhat.com>
2000-06-06 23:06             ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel: it's not " Rik van Riel
2000-06-07  1:19               ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel: it'snot " Hans Reiser
2000-06-07  1:46                 ` Quintela Carreira Juan J.
2000-06-07  3:45                   ` Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 11:15                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 13:23                       ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 13:41                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 14:27                           ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 14:46                             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 14:51                               ` bert hubert
2000-06-07 15:20                               ` Quintela Carreira Juan J.
2000-06-07 15:35                                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 15:41                                   ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 15:44                                   ` Juan J. Quintela
2000-06-07 17:10                                   ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-06-07 17:14                                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 17:21                                       ` Jeff V. Merkey
2000-06-07 20:16                                   ` Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 21:20                                     ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 21:52                                       ` journaling & VM Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 22:11                                         ` James Sutherland
2000-06-07 22:29                                           ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-08  1:11                                         ` Neil Schemenauer
2000-06-08  1:29                                           ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 20:16                                 ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel: it'snot just the code) Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 20:54                                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 21:29                                     ` Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 21:31                                       ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 21:33                                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 22:20                                         ` journaling & VM Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 21:50                                       ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel: it'snot just the code) Juan J. Quintela
2000-06-07 19:02                         ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel:it'snot " Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 13:40                       ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel: it'snot " Chris Mason
2000-06-07 13:47                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 11:12                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 16:35                   ` journaling & VM John Fremlin
2000-06-07 17:11                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
     [not found]                       ` <20000608114435.A15433@uni-koblenz.de>
2000-06-08 21:29                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-09 11:53                           ` Ralf Baechle
2000-06-07 17:48                   ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel: it'snot just the code) Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 18:01                     ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 19:58                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 20:56                         ` Juan J. Quintela
2000-06-07 21:14                           ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2000-06-07 21:24                           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 21:40                             ` Juan J. Quintela
2000-06-07 21:49                               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 22:00                                 ` Juan J. Quintela
2000-06-07 22:22                                 ` Manfred Spraul
2000-06-09 15:08                                   ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-09 16:52                                     ` Manfred Spraul
2000-06-09 17:23                                       ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-09 18:26                                         ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel:it'snot " Manfred Spraul
2000-06-07 22:28                                 ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel: it'snot " Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 10:10               ` journaling & VM (was: Re: reiserfs being part of the kernel: it's not " Stephen C. Tweedie
     [not found]             ` <393DACC8.5DB60A81@reiser.to>
2000-06-07 11:00               ` reiserfs being part of the kernel: it's not just the code Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 17:11                 ` Rik van Riel
2000-06-07 17:13                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-06-07 17:46                 ` Hans Reiser
2000-06-07 19:53                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie

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