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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	MM mailing list <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu
Subject: Re: [patch] balanced highmem subsystem under pre7-9
Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 18:58:00 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0005181848360.3896-100000@inspiron.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10005121839370.3348-100000@elte.hu>

[ sorry for the late reply ]

On Fri, 12 May 2000, Ingo Molnar wrote:

>On Fri, 12 May 2000, Rik van Riel wrote:
>
>> But we *can* split the HIGHMEM zone into a bunch of smaller
>> ones without affecting performance. Just set zone->pages_min
>> and zone->pages_low to 0 and zone->pages_high to some smallish
>> value. Then we can teach the allocator to skip the zone if:
>> 1) no obscenely large amount of free pages
>> 2) zone is locked by somebody else (TryLock(zone->lock))
>
>whats the point of this splitup? (i suspect there is a point, i just
>cannot see it now. thanks.)

I quote email from Rik of 25 Apr 2000 23:10:56 on linux-mm:

-- Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0004252240280.14340-100000@duckman.conectiva> --
We can do this just fine. Splitting a box into a dozen more
zones than what we have currently should work just fine,
except for (as you say) higher cpu use by kwapd.

If I get my balancing patch right, most of that disadvantage
should be gone as well. Maybe we *do* want to do this on
bigger SMP boxes so each processor can start out with a
separate zone and check the other zone later to avoid lock
contention?
--------------------------------------------------------------

I still strongly think that the current zone strict mem balancing design
is very broken (and I also think to be right since I believe to see
the whole picture) but I don't think I can explain my arguments
better and/or more extensively of how I just did in linux-mm some week ago.

If you see anything wrong in my reasoning please let me know. The interesting
thread was "Re: 2.3.x mem balancing" (the start were off list) in linux-mm.

Andrea

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-05-19  1:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-05-08 17:21 [PATCH] Recent VM fiasco - fixed Zlatko Calusic
2000-05-08 17:43 ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-08 18:16   ` Zlatko Calusic
2000-05-08 18:20     ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-08 18:46     ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-08 18:53       ` Zlatko Calusic
2000-05-08 19:04         ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-09  7:56   ` Daniel Stone
2000-05-09  8:25     ` Christoph Rohland
2000-05-09 15:44       ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-09 16:12         ` Simon Kirby
2000-05-09 17:42         ` Christoph Rohland
2000-05-09 19:50           ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-10 11:25             ` Christoph Rohland
2000-05-10 11:50               ` Zlatko Calusic
2000-05-11 23:40                 ` Mark Hahn
2000-05-10  4:05         ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2000-05-10  7:29           ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2000-05-11  0:16             ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-11  0:32               ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-11 16:36                 ` [PATCH] Recent VM fiasco - fixed (pre7-9) Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan
2000-05-11  1:04               ` [PATCH] Recent VM fiasco - fixed Juan J. Quintela
2000-05-11  1:53                 ` Simon Kirby
2000-05-11  7:23                   ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-11 14:17                     ` Simon Kirby
2000-05-11 23:38                       ` Simon Kirby
2000-05-12  0:09                         ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-12  2:51                           ` [RFC][PATCH] shrink_mmap avoid list_del (Was: Re: [PATCH] Recent VM fiasco - fixed) Roger Larsson
2000-05-11 11:15                   ` [PATCH] Recent VM fiasco - fixed Rik van Riel
2000-05-11  5:10                 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-11 10:09                   ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2000-05-11 17:25                   ` Juan J. Quintela
2000-05-11 23:25                   ` [patch] balanced highmem subsystem under pre7-9 Ingo Molnar
2000-05-11 23:46                     ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-12  0:08                       ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12  0:15                         ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12  9:02                     ` Christoph Rohland
2000-05-12  9:56                       ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 11:49                         ` Christoph Rohland
2000-05-12 16:12                       ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-12 10:57                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-05-12 12:11                       ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 12:57                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-05-12 13:20                           ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-12 16:40                             ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 17:15                               ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-12 18:15                               ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-12 18:53                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 19:06                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-12 19:36                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 19:40                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 19:54                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 22:48                                       ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-13 11:57                                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-05-13 12:03                                           ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-13 12:14                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-13 14:23                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-19  1:58                               ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2000-05-19 15:03                                 ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-19 16:08                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-05-19 17:05                                     ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-19 22:28                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-11 11:12               ` [PATCH] Recent VM fiasco - fixed Christoph Rohland
2000-05-11 17:38               ` Steve Dodd
2000-05-09 10:21     ` Rik van Riel

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