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From: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch] VM stable again?
Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 16:27:38 -0300 (BRST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0005151625290.20410-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10005152122580.8896-100000@elte.hu>

On Mon, 15 May 2000, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> On Mon, 15 May 2000, Rik van Riel wrote:
> 
> > I've thought about this but it doesn't seem worth the extra complexity
> > to me. Just making sure that while our task is freeing pages nobody
> > else will grab those pages without having also freed some pages seems
> > to be enough to me.
> 
> actually wouldnt it be simpler to always call
> try_to_free_pages() when the zone is low on memory? This will
> keep the pressure on the system to recover from the low memory
> situation, and it reuses the low_on_memory flag. The new
> free_before_allocate flag is a 'now we are really low on memory'
> flag.

This would disturb the balancing between zones. We do not
want to have this flag per-zone since it would return us
to the "16/64MB unused" problem (and I believe you've seen
it too with highmem).

> > Furthermore, the "SMP locality" you talk about will probably be
> > completely overshadowed by the non-locality of the VM freeing code
> > anyway...
> 
> But it would be a performance optimization for sure, a
> __free_pages() + __alloc_pages() is saved - this can make a big
> difference if (a mostly clean) pagecache is shrunk.

But we shrink 'count' pages at the same time. It would only save
2 operations out of a *lot*. A much bigger win could be had if
the list operations in shrink_mmap() would be made simpler or
lower overhead...

regards,

Rik
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  reply	other threads:[~2000-05-15 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-05-15 15:12 Rik van Riel
2000-05-15 15:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-15 15:27   ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-15 16:15     ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-15 18:36   ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-15 18:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-15 19:01 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-05-15 19:10   ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-15 19:30     ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-15 19:27       ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2000-05-15 19:22   ` Ingo Molnar

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