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From: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	MM mailing list <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu
Subject: Re: [patch] balanced highmem subsystem under pre7-9
Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 12:57:00 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0005121246410.6487-100000@inspiron> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10005120113520.10596-200000@elte.hu>

On Fri, 12 May 2000, Ingo Molnar wrote:

>IMO high memory should not be balanced. Stock pre7-9 tried to balance high
>memory once it got below the treshold (causing very bad VM behavior and
>high kswapd usage) - this is incorrect because there is nothing special
>about the highmem zone, it's more like an 'extension' of the normal zone,
>from which specific caches can turn. (patch attached)

IMHO that is an hack to workaround the currently broken design of the MM.
And it will also produce bad effect since you won't age the recycle the
cache in the highmem zone correctly.

Without classzone design you will always have kswapd and the page
allocator that shrink memory even if not necessary. Please check as
reference the very detailed explanation I posted around two weeks ago on
linux-mm in reply to Linus.

What you're trying to workaround on the highmem part is exactly the same
problem you also have between the normal zone and the dma zone. Why don't
you also just take 3mbyte always free from the dma zone and you never
shrink the normal zone?

Andrea

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-05-12 10:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-05-08 17:21 [PATCH] Recent VM fiasco - fixed Zlatko Calusic
2000-05-08 17:43 ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-08 18:16   ` Zlatko Calusic
2000-05-08 18:20     ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-08 18:46     ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-08 18:53       ` Zlatko Calusic
2000-05-08 19:04         ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-09  7:56   ` Daniel Stone
2000-05-09  8:25     ` Christoph Rohland
2000-05-09 15:44       ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-09 16:12         ` Simon Kirby
2000-05-09 17:42         ` Christoph Rohland
2000-05-09 19:50           ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-10 11:25             ` Christoph Rohland
2000-05-10 11:50               ` Zlatko Calusic
2000-05-11 23:40                 ` Mark Hahn
2000-05-10  4:05         ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2000-05-10  7:29           ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2000-05-11  0:16             ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-11  0:32               ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-11 16:36                 ` [PATCH] Recent VM fiasco - fixed (pre7-9) Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan
2000-05-11  1:04               ` [PATCH] Recent VM fiasco - fixed Juan J. Quintela
2000-05-11  1:53                 ` Simon Kirby
2000-05-11  7:23                   ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-11 14:17                     ` Simon Kirby
2000-05-11 23:38                       ` Simon Kirby
2000-05-12  0:09                         ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-12  2:51                           ` [RFC][PATCH] shrink_mmap avoid list_del (Was: Re: [PATCH] Recent VM fiasco - fixed) Roger Larsson
2000-05-11 11:15                   ` [PATCH] Recent VM fiasco - fixed Rik van Riel
2000-05-11  5:10                 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-11 10:09                   ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2000-05-11 17:25                   ` Juan J. Quintela
2000-05-11 23:25                   ` [patch] balanced highmem subsystem under pre7-9 Ingo Molnar
2000-05-11 23:46                     ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-12  0:08                       ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12  0:15                         ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12  9:02                     ` Christoph Rohland
2000-05-12  9:56                       ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 11:49                         ` Christoph Rohland
2000-05-12 16:12                       ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-12 10:57                     ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2000-05-12 12:11                       ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 12:57                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-05-12 13:20                           ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-12 16:40                             ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 17:15                               ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-12 18:15                               ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-12 18:53                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 19:06                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-12 19:36                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 19:40                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 19:54                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 22:48                                       ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-13 11:57                                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-05-13 12:03                                           ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-13 12:14                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-13 14:23                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-19  1:58                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-05-19 15:03                                 ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-19 16:08                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-05-19 17:05                                     ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-19 22:28                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-11 11:12               ` [PATCH] Recent VM fiasco - fixed Christoph Rohland
2000-05-11 17:38               ` Steve Dodd
2000-05-09 10:21     ` Rik van Riel

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