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From: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
To: Zlatko Calusic <zlatko@iskon.hr>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Recent VM fiasco - fixed
Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 15:46:09 -0300 (BRST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0005081544360.20958-100000@duckman.conectiva> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dnln1kykkb.fsf@magla.iskon.hr>

On 8 May 2000, Zlatko Calusic wrote:
> Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br> writes:
> > On 8 May 2000, Zlatko Calusic wrote:
> > 
> > > BTW, this patch mostly *removes* cruft recently added, and
> > > returns to the known state of operation.
> > 
> > Which doesn't work.
> > 
> > Think of a 1GB machine which has a 16MB DMA zone,
> > a 950MB normal zone and a very small HIGHMEM zone.
> > 
> > With the old VM code the HIGHMEM zone would be
> > swapping like mad while the other two zones are
> > idle.
> > 
> > It's Not That Kind Of Party(tm)
> 
> OK, I see now what you have in mind, and I'll try to test it when I
> get home (yes, late worker... my only connection to the Net :))
> If only I could buy 1GB to test in the real setup. ;)
> 
> But still, optimizing for 1GB, while at the same time completely
> killing performances even *usability* for the 99% of users doesn't
> look like a good solution, does it?

20MB and 24MB machines will be in the same situation, if
that's of any help to you ;)

> But after few hours spent dealing with the horrible VM that is
> in the pre6, I'm not scared anymore. And I think that solution
> to all our problems with zone balancing must be very simple.

It is. Linus is working on a conservative & simple solution
while I'm trying a bit more "far-out" code (active and inactive
list a'la BSD, etc...). We should have at least one good VM
subsystem within the next few weeks ;)

regards,

Rik
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-05-08 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-05-08 17:21 Zlatko Calusic
2000-05-08 17:43 ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-08 18:16   ` Zlatko Calusic
2000-05-08 18:20     ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-08 18:46     ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2000-05-08 18:53       ` Zlatko Calusic
2000-05-08 19:04         ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-09  7:56   ` Daniel Stone
2000-05-09  8:25     ` Christoph Rohland
2000-05-09 15:44       ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-09 16:12         ` Simon Kirby
2000-05-09 17:42         ` Christoph Rohland
2000-05-09 19:50           ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-10 11:25             ` Christoph Rohland
2000-05-10 11:50               ` Zlatko Calusic
2000-05-11 23:40                 ` Mark Hahn
2000-05-10  4:05         ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2000-05-10  7:29           ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2000-05-11  0:16             ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-11  0:32               ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-11 16:36                 ` [PATCH] Recent VM fiasco - fixed (pre7-9) Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan
2000-05-11  1:04               ` [PATCH] Recent VM fiasco - fixed Juan J. Quintela
2000-05-11  1:53                 ` Simon Kirby
2000-05-11  7:23                   ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-11 14:17                     ` Simon Kirby
2000-05-11 23:38                       ` Simon Kirby
2000-05-12  0:09                         ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-12  2:51                           ` [RFC][PATCH] shrink_mmap avoid list_del (Was: Re: [PATCH] Recent VM fiasco - fixed) Roger Larsson
2000-05-11 11:15                   ` [PATCH] Recent VM fiasco - fixed Rik van Riel
2000-05-11  5:10                 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-11 10:09                   ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2000-05-11 17:25                   ` Juan J. Quintela
2000-05-11 23:25                   ` [patch] balanced highmem subsystem under pre7-9 Ingo Molnar
2000-05-11 23:46                     ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-12  0:08                       ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12  0:15                         ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12  9:02                     ` Christoph Rohland
2000-05-12  9:56                       ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 11:49                         ` Christoph Rohland
2000-05-12 16:12                       ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-12 10:57                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-05-12 12:11                       ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 12:57                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-05-12 13:20                           ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-12 16:40                             ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 17:15                               ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-12 18:15                               ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-12 18:53                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 19:06                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-12 19:36                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 19:40                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 19:54                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 22:48                                       ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-13 11:57                                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-05-13 12:03                                           ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-13 12:14                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-13 14:23                                               ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-19  1:58                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-05-19 15:03                                 ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-19 16:08                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-05-19 17:05                                     ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-19 22:28                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-11 11:12               ` [PATCH] Recent VM fiasco - fixed Christoph Rohland
2000-05-11 17:38               ` Steve Dodd
2000-05-09 10:21     ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-11 11:26 Jones D (ISaCS)
2000-05-12  7:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli

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