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From: James Simmons <jsimmons@edgeglobal.com>
To: "Benjamin C.R. LaHaise" <blah@kvack.org>
Cc: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>,
	Marcus Sundberg <erammsu@kieray1.p.y.ki.era.ericsson.se>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: mm->mmap_sem
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 12:05:24 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9909301144170.4106-100000@imperial.edgeglobal.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.990930110519.3724A-100000@kanga.kvack.org>

> > Here is another question since its very expensive putting another process 
> > to sleep. If the process owns both the accel engine and framebuffer then I
> > should be able to put the process to sleep while the accel engine is
> > running? Since the process is asleep it can't acces the framebuffer but
> > the accel engine is still running on the card.    
> 
> Oh gawd...  How much does the kernel know about the accelerator?

Its a memory region thats mmap to userspace. Thats all it knows. By the
way what I suggested above would work.

> Something to consider is that the 'right' solution might be to make the
> kernel pass console handling to a user task -- have you ever considered
> that?

Uhm. No. I don't think that will work for what I want.

> >   These are mmapped regions. So locking out the kernel will not help. You
> > have to prevent userland from accessing the memory region to prevent the
> > machine from locking. 
> 
> And the performance-correct way to do this is with a cooperative lock that
> is *not part* of the mmap'd region. 

That still doesn't prevent a rogue aplication from locking the machine on
purpose. A application could just ignore the locks.


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  reply	other threads:[~1999-09-30 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-09-22 21:02 mm->mmap_sem James Simmons
1999-09-24  0:07 ` mm->mmap_sem Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-09-24 14:59   ` mm->mmap_sem James Simmons
1999-09-24 18:09     ` mm->mmap_sem Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-09-25  1:24       ` mm->mmap_sem James Simmons
1999-09-25 14:55         ` mm->mmap_sem Andrea Arcangeli
1999-09-25 16:50           ` mm->mmap_sem James Simmons
1999-09-25 17:06             ` mm->mmap_sem Andrea Arcangeli
1999-09-26  1:19               ` mm->mmap_sem James Simmons
1999-09-26 14:07                 ` mm->mmap_sem Andrea Arcangeli
1999-09-27  8:55                 ` mm->mmap_sem Marcus Sundberg
1999-09-27 19:31                   ` mm->mmap_sem James Simmons
1999-09-29 23:00                     ` mm->mmap_sem Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-09-30  0:17                       ` mm->mmap_sem James Simmons
1999-09-30  0:23                         ` mm->mmap_sem Benjamin C.R. LaHaise
1999-09-30 14:59                           ` mm->mmap_sem James Simmons
1999-09-30 15:15                             ` mm->mmap_sem Benjamin C.R. LaHaise
1999-09-30 16:05                               ` James Simmons [this message]
1999-09-30 14:54                         ` mm->mmap_sem Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-09-27 14:16                 ` mm->mmap_sem Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-09-27 20:22                   ` mm->mmap_sem James Simmons
1999-09-27 14:13             ` mm->mmap_sem Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-09-27  8:08     ` mm->mmap_sem Neil Conway

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