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From: James Sutherland <jas88@cam.ac.uk>
To: Ingo Oeser <ingo.oeser@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Discussion on my OOM killer API
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 18:36:13 +0100 (BST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10010271832020.13084-100000@dax.joh.cam.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20001027191010.N18138@nightmaster.csn.tu-chemnitz.de>

On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Ingo Oeser wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 12:58:44AM +0100, James Sutherland wrote:
> > Which begs the question, where did the userspace OOM policy daemon go? It,
> > coupled with Rik's simple in-kernel last-ditch handler, should cover most
> > eventualities without the need for nasty kernel kludges.
> 
> If I do the full blown variant of my patch: 
> 
> echo "my-kewl-oom-killer" >/proc/sys/vm/oom_handler
> 
> will try to load the module with this name for a new one and
> uninstall the old one.

EBADIDEA. The kernel's OOM killer is a last ditch "something's going to
die - who's first?" - adding extra bloat like this is BAD.

Policy should be decided user-side, and should prevent the kernel-side
killer EVER triggering.

> The original idea was an simple "I install a module and lock it
> into memory" approach[1] for kernel hackers, which is _really_
> easy to to and flexibility for nothing[2].
> 
> If the Rik and Linus prefer the user-accessable variant via
> /proc, I'll happily implement this.
> 
> I just intended to solve a "religious" discussion via code
> instead of words ;-)

I was planning to implement a user-side OOM killer myself - perhaps we
could split the work, you do kernel-side, I'll do the userspace bits?


James.

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  reply	other threads:[~2000-10-27 17:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20001019122331.H840@nightmaster.csn.tu-chemnitz.de>
2000-10-19 17:02 ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-26 20:47   ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-26 21:16     ` Rik van Riel
2000-10-26 22:33       ` Mark Hahn
2000-10-26 23:58       ` James Sutherland
2000-10-27  0:10         ` Linus Torvalds
2000-10-27  6:46           ` James Sutherland
2000-10-27  7:39             ` Gábor Lénárt
2000-10-27 13:54               ` James Sutherland
2000-10-27 17:10         ` Ingo Oeser
2000-10-27 17:36           ` James Sutherland [this message]
2000-10-27 22:12             ` jfm2
2000-10-27 22:11               ` James Sutherland
2000-10-27 22:43                 ` jfm2
2000-10-27 22:51                   ` James Sutherland
2000-10-28  4:48                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2000-10-28  7:29                   ` James Sutherland
2000-10-30  9:02               ` G?bor L?n?rt
2000-10-30  9:41                 ` James Sutherland
2000-10-30  9:53                   ` G?bor L?n?rt
2000-10-30 12:18                     ` J.A. Sutherland
2000-10-29 19:30             ` Ingo Oeser
2000-10-29 20:41               ` James Sutherland

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