From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu
Subject: Re: RFC: design for new VM
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 13:22:26 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10008031316490.6528-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0008031512390.24022-100000@duckman.distro.conectiva>
On Thu, 3 Aug 2000, Rik van Riel wrote:
>
> The lists are not at all dependant on where the pages come
> from. The lists are dependant on the *page age*. This almost
> sounds like you didn't read my mail... ;(
I did read the email. And I understand that. And that's exactly why I
think a single-list is equivalent (because your lists basically act simply
as "caches" of the page age).
> NO. We need different queues so waiting for pages to be flushed
> to disk doesn't screw up page aging of the other pages (the ones
> we absolutely do not want to evict from memory yet).
Ehh.. Did you read _my_ mail?
Go back. Read it. Realize that your "multiple queues" is nothing more than
"cached information". They do not change _behaviour_ at all. They only
change the amount of CPU-time you need to parse it.
Your arguments do not seem to address this issue at all.
In my mailbox I have an email from you as of yesterday (or the day before)
which says:
- I will not try to balance the current MM because it is not doable
And I don't see that your suggestion is fundamentally adding anything but
a CPU timesaver.
Basically, answer me this _simple_ question: what _behavioural_
differences do you claim multiple queues have? Ignore CPU usage for now.
I'm claiming they are just a cache.
And you claim that the current MM cannot be balanced, but your new one
can.
Please reconcile these two things for me.
Linus
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2000-08-03 20:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-08-02 22:08 Rik van Riel
2000-08-03 7:19 ` Chris Wedgwood
2000-08-03 16:01 ` Rik van Riel
2000-08-04 15:41 ` Matthew Dillon
2000-08-04 17:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-08-04 23:51 ` Matthew Dillon
2000-08-05 0:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-08-05 1:52 ` Matthew Dillon
2000-08-05 1:09 ` Matthew Wilcox
2000-08-05 2:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-08-05 2:17 ` Alexander Viro
2000-08-07 17:55 ` Matthew Dillon
2000-08-05 22:48 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-08-03 18:27 ` lamont
2000-08-03 18:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-08-03 19:11 ` Chris Wedgwood
2000-08-03 21:04 ` Benjamin C.R. LaHaise
2000-08-03 19:32 ` Rik van Riel
2000-08-03 18:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-08-03 18:50 ` Rik van Riel
2000-08-03 20:22 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2000-08-03 22:05 ` Rik van Riel
2000-08-03 22:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-08-03 19:00 ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-08-03 19:29 ` Rik van Riel
2000-08-03 20:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-08-03 19:37 ` Ingo Oeser
2000-08-03 20:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-08-03 21:56 ` Ingo Oeser
2000-08-03 22:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-08-04 2:33 ` David Gould
2000-08-16 15:10 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-08-03 19:26 ` Roger Larsson
2000-08-03 21:50 ` Rik van Riel
2000-08-03 22:28 ` Roger Larsson
2000-08-04 13:52 Mark_H_Johnson
[not found] <8725692F.0079E22B.00@d53mta03h.boulder.ibm.com>
2000-08-07 17:40 ` Gerrit.Huizenga
2000-08-07 18:37 ` Matthew Wilcox
2000-08-07 20:55 ` Chuck Lever
2000-08-07 21:59 ` Rik van Riel
2000-08-08 3:26 ` David Gould
2000-08-08 5:54 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-08-08 7:15 ` David Gould
[not found] <87256934.0072FA16.00@d53mta04h.boulder.ibm.com>
2000-08-08 0:36 ` Gerrit.Huizenga
[not found] <87256934.0078DADB.00@d53mta03h.boulder.ibm.com>
2000-08-08 0:48 ` Gerrit.Huizenga
2000-08-08 15:21 ` Rik van Riel
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