From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: MM mailing list <linux-mm@kvack.org>, linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu
Subject: Re: [patch] balanced highmem subsystem under pre7-9
Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 16:46:13 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10005111638260.1319-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10005120113520.10596-200000@elte.hu>
On Fri, 12 May 2000, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> IMO high memory should not be balanced. Stock pre7-9 tried to balance high
> memory once it got below the treshold (causing very bad VM behavior and
> high kswapd usage) - this is incorrect because there is nothing special
> about the highmem zone, it's more like an 'extension' of the normal zone,
> from which specific caches can turn. (patch attached)
Hmm.. I think the patch is wrong. It's much easier to make
zone_balance_max[HIGHMEM] = 0;
and that will do the same thing, no?
> another problem is that even during a mild test the DMA zone gets emptied
> easily - but on a big RAM box kswapd has to work _alot_ to fill it up. In
> fact on an 8GB box it's completely futile to fill up the DMA zone. What
> worked for me is this zone-chainlist trick in the zone setup code:
Ok. This is a real problem. My inclination would be to say that your patch
is right, but only for large-memory configurations. Ie just say that if
the dang machine has more than half a gig of memory, we shouldn't touch
the 16 low megs at all unless explicitly asked for.
But the static thing ("never touch ZONE_DMA" when doing a normal
allocation) is obviously bogus on smaller-memory machines. So make it
conditional.
> allocate 5% of total RAM or 16MB to the DMA zone (via fixing up zone sizes
> on bootup), whichever is smaller, in 2MB increments. Disadvantage of this
> method: eg. it wastes 2MB RAM on a 8MB box.
This may be part of the solution - make it more gradual than a complete
cut-off at some random point (eg half a gig).
After all, this is why we zoned memory in the first place, so I think it
makes sense to be much more dynamic with the zones.
Linus
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Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-05-08 17:21 [PATCH] Recent VM fiasco - fixed Zlatko Calusic
2000-05-08 17:43 ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-08 18:16 ` Zlatko Calusic
2000-05-08 18:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-08 18:46 ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-08 18:53 ` Zlatko Calusic
2000-05-08 19:04 ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-09 7:56 ` Daniel Stone
2000-05-09 8:25 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-05-09 15:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-09 16:12 ` Simon Kirby
2000-05-09 17:42 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-05-09 19:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-10 11:25 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-05-10 11:50 ` Zlatko Calusic
2000-05-11 23:40 ` Mark Hahn
2000-05-10 4:05 ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2000-05-10 7:29 ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2000-05-11 0:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-11 0:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-11 16:36 ` [PATCH] Recent VM fiasco - fixed (pre7-9) Rajagopal Ananthanarayanan
2000-05-11 1:04 ` [PATCH] Recent VM fiasco - fixed Juan J. Quintela
2000-05-11 1:53 ` Simon Kirby
2000-05-11 7:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-11 14:17 ` Simon Kirby
2000-05-11 23:38 ` Simon Kirby
2000-05-12 0:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-12 2:51 ` [RFC][PATCH] shrink_mmap avoid list_del (Was: Re: [PATCH] Recent VM fiasco - fixed) Roger Larsson
2000-05-11 11:15 ` [PATCH] Recent VM fiasco - fixed Rik van Riel
2000-05-11 5:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-11 10:09 ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2000-05-11 17:25 ` Juan J. Quintela
2000-05-11 23:25 ` [patch] balanced highmem subsystem under pre7-9 Ingo Molnar
2000-05-11 23:46 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2000-05-12 0:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 0:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 9:02 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-05-12 9:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 11:49 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-05-12 16:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-12 10:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-05-12 12:11 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 12:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-05-12 13:20 ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-12 16:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 17:15 ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-12 18:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-12 18:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 19:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-12 19:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 19:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 19:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-12 22:48 ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-13 11:57 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-05-13 12:03 ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-13 12:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-13 14:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-05-19 1:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-05-19 15:03 ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-19 16:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-05-19 17:05 ` Rik van Riel
2000-05-19 22:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-05-11 11:12 ` [PATCH] Recent VM fiasco - fixed Christoph Rohland
2000-05-11 17:38 ` Steve Dodd
2000-05-09 10:21 ` Rik van Riel
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