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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
To: Chuck Lever <cel@monkey.org>
Cc: James Manning <jmm@computer.org>, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: a plea for mincore()/madvise()
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:46:49 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10003101340130.11037-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSO.4.10.10003101619410.26118-100000@funky.monkey.org>


On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Chuck Lever wrote:
> 
> i don't understand what you mean here.  you don't think that madvise might
> have different behavior depending on what kind of vma is the target?

That's not what I meant, but no, I don't think it should have different
behaviour depending on the vma anyway.

What I meant is really that the different "advices" are totally different.
MADV_DONTNEED is an operation that probably walks the page tables and just
throws the pages out (or just marks them old and uniniteresting).
Similarly MADV_WILLNEED implies more of a "start doing something now" kind
of thing. Neither would be flags in vma->vm_flags, because neither of them
are really all that much of a "save this state for future behaviour" kind
of thing.

In contrast, MADV_RANDOM is a flag that you'd set in vma->vm_flags, and
would tell the page-in logic to not pre-fetch, because it doesn't pay off.
And MADV_SEQUENTIAL would probably tell the page-in logic to pre-fetch
very aggressively. 

> re-using the mprotect code for sequential, random, and normal behavior is
> much preferred to what the patch does today.

The mprotect() routines that walk the page tables makes sense for
MADV_DONTNEED and MADV_WILLNEED. It makes no sense at all for MADV_RANDOM
and MADV_SEQUENTIAL, other than the actual vma _splitting_ part (as
opposed to the actual page table walking part).

See? I don't think the different advices are really comparable. It's
different cases.

		Linus

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  reply	other threads:[~2000-03-10 21:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20000310152650.A14388@nina.pagesz.net>
2000-03-10 21:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-03-10 21:36   ` Chuck Lever
2000-03-10 21:46     ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2000-03-10 23:41       ` Chuck Lever
2000-03-11  0:14         ` Linus Torvalds
2000-03-11  0:39           ` Chuck Lever
2000-03-11 14:14             ` Christoph Rohland
2000-03-13  8:43               ` Richard Guenther
2000-03-13 16:03             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-03-13 17:20               ` Chuck Lever

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