From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@chiara.csoma.elte.hu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
Kanoj Sarcar <kanoj@google.engr.sgi.com>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Rik van Riel <riel@nl.linux.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu
Subject: Re: [RFC] 2.3.39 zone balancing
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 03:13:48 +0100 (CET) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10001140304570.7119-100000@chiara.csoma.elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10001131650520.2250-100000@penguin.transmeta.com>
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> HOWEVER, I don't think this is going to be a huge issue in most cases. And
> if people don't need non-DMA memory, then the pages we "swapped" out are
> going to stay in RAM anyway, so it's not going to hurt us.
>
> Anyway, I obviously do agree that I may well be wrong, and that real life
> is going to come back and bite us, and we'll end up having to not do it
> this way. However, I'd prefer trying the "conceptually simple" path first,
> and only if it turns out that yes, I was completely wrong, do we try to
> fix it up with magic heuristics etc.
hm., i think we'll see this with ISA soundcards (still the majority) if
used as modules. Right now kswapd just gives up too easy and says 'no such
page', on a box with lots of RAM and all DMA allocated in process VM
space.
Anyway, the patch and suggestion of passing in a single zone is i believe
completely wrong, because it advances mm->swap_address, which unfairly
selects a given range to be checked for only one zone. So i think it's
either zone-bitmaps (or equivalent multi-zone logic) or what you
suggested, to have no zone-awareness in swap_out() for now at all.
(i believe this is also going to bite us with the IA64 port - kswapd will
have no information to free pages from the right node, we could solve this
already with a zone bitmap, or by starting per-zone kswapds. The latter
one looks like overkill to me, but it's conceptually cleaner than bitmaps
and and does not have a limitation on the number of zones. Might not be a
highprio issue though.)
-- mingo
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2000-01-14 2:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-01-12 21:11 Kanoj Sarcar
2000-01-13 13:40 ` Rik van Riel
2000-01-13 17:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-01-13 17:18 ` Alan Cox
2000-01-13 18:37 ` Rik van Riel
2000-01-13 20:13 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-01-13 21:12 ` Rik van Riel
2000-01-13 21:40 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-01-14 12:25 ` Jamie Lokier
2000-01-14 13:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-01-13 18:52 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-01-13 19:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-01-13 21:02 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-01-13 21:34 ` Benjamin C.R. LaHaise
2000-01-13 21:48 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-01-13 21:42 ` Alan Cox
2000-01-13 21:50 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-01-13 21:53 ` Alan Cox
2000-01-13 22:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-01-13 22:13 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-01-13 22:28 ` Rik van Riel
2000-01-13 22:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-01-13 23:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-01-13 23:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-01-14 0:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-01-14 0:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2000-01-14 1:08 ` Rik van Riel
2000-01-14 2:13 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2000-01-14 1:17 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-01-14 2:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-01-14 20:33 ` Peter Rival
2000-01-14 1:13 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-01-14 2:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-01-14 2:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-01-14 6:22 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-01-15 2:03 ` Reworked 2.3.39 zone balancing - v1 Kanoj Sarcar
2000-01-14 0:28 ` [RFC] 2.3.39 zone balancing Andrea Arcangeli
2000-01-13 17:12 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-01-13 18:30 ` Kanoj Sarcar
2000-01-13 19:22 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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