From: Rik van Riel <H.H.vanRiel@phys.uu.nl>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@e-mind.com>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm+eric@ccr.net>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
"Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>,
Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Alan Cox <number6@the-village.bc.nu>
Subject: Re: New patch (was Re: [PATCH] swapin readahead v3 + kswapd fixes)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:10:57 +0100 (CET) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.03.9812222107211.397-100000@mirkwood.dummy.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.981222162525.8801A-100000@laser.bogus>
On Tue, 22 Dec 1998, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On 22 Dec 1998, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>
> >My suggestion (again) would be to not call shrink_mmap in the swapper
> >(unless we are endangering atomic allocations). And to never call
> >swap_out in the memory allocator (just wake up kswapd).
>
> Ah, I just had your _same_ _exactly_ idea yesterday but there' s a
> good reason I nor proposed/tried it. The point are Real time
> tasks. kswapd is not realtime and a realtime task must be able to
> swapout a little by itself in try_to_free_pages() when there's
> nothing to free on the cache anymore.
- kswapd should make sure that there is enough on the cache
(we should keep track of how many 1-count cache pages there
are in the system)
- realtime tasks shouldn't go around allocating huge amounts
of memory -- this totally ruins the realtime aspect anyway
> (and this will avoid also tasks other than kswapd to
> sleep waiting for slowww SYNC IO).
Some tasks (really big memory hogs) are better left sleeping
for I/O because they otherwise completely overpower the rest
of the system. But that's a slightly different story :)
cheers,
Rik -- the flu hits, the flu hits, the flu hits -- MORE
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Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1998-12-01 6:55 [PATCH] swapin readahead v3 + kswapd fixes Rik van Riel
1998-12-01 8:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-12-01 15:28 ` Rik van Riel
1998-12-17 1:24 ` Linus Torvalds
1998-12-19 17:09 ` New patch (was Re: [PATCH] swapin readahead v3 + kswapd fixes) Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-12-19 18:41 ` Linus Torvalds
1998-12-19 19:41 ` Linus Torvalds
1998-12-19 22:01 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-12-20 3:05 ` Linus Torvalds
1998-12-20 14:18 ` Linus Torvalds
1998-12-21 13:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-12-21 13:39 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-12-21 14:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-12-21 16:42 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-12-21 9:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-12-21 16:37 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-12-21 17:58 ` Linus Torvalds
1998-12-21 18:59 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-12-21 19:38 ` Linus Torvalds
1998-12-22 7:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
1998-12-22 10:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-12-22 15:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
1998-12-22 15:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-12-22 16:26 ` Linus Torvalds
1998-12-22 19:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
1998-12-22 20:25 ` Rik van Riel
1998-12-22 21:56 ` Linus Torvalds
1998-12-22 20:10 ` Rik van Riel [this message]
1998-12-22 22:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-12-23 8:45 ` Rik van Riel
1998-12-22 20:03 ` Rik van Riel
1998-12-22 17:23 ` [patch] swap_out now really free (the right) pages [Re: New patch (was Re: [PATCH] swapin readahead v3 + kswapd fixes)] Andrea Arcangeli
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