From: Rik van Riel <H.H.vanRiel@phys.uu.nl>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm+eric@ccr.net>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@e-mind.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
"Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>,
Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Alan Cox <number6@the-village.bc.nu>
Subject: Re: New patch (was Re: [PATCH] swapin readahead v3 + kswapd fixes)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:03:17 +0100 (CET) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.03.9812222057210.397-100000@mirkwood.dummy.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1pv9cqjj4.fsf@flinx.ccr.net>
On 22 Dec 1998, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> The goal is to keep one single rogue program from outcompeting all
> of the others. With implementing a RSS limit this is accomplished
> by at some point forcing free pages to come from the program that
> needs the memory, (via swap_out) instead of directly.
>
> What currently happens is when such a program starts thrashing, is
> whenever it wakes up it steals all of the memory, and sleeps until
> it can steel some more. Because the program is a better
> competitor, than the others. With a RSS limit we would garantee
> that there is some memory left over for other programs to run in.
>
> Eventually we should attempt to autotune a programs RSS by it's
> workload, and if giving a program a larger RSS doesn't help (that
> is the program continues to thrash with an RSS we give it) we
> should scale back it's RSS, so as not to compete with other
> programs.
I have a better idea:
if (current->mm->rss > hog_pct && total_mapped > syshog_pct) {
... swap_out_process(current, GFP) swap_cluster pages ...
}
We can easily do something like this because swap_out() only
unmaps the pages and they can easily be mapped in again.
I know we tried it before and it horribly failed back then,
but now pages are not freed on swap_out(). Things have changed
in such a way that it could probably work now...
We want the above routine in one of the functions surrounding
mm/page_alloc.c::swap_in() -- this way we 'throttle at the
source'.
I know some of you think throttling at the source is a bad
thing (even for buffer cache), but you'll have to throttle
eventually and not doing it will mean you also 'throttle'
the (innocent) rest of the system...
cheers,
Rik -- the flu hits, the flu hits, the flu hits -- MORE
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~1998-12-22 21:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1998-12-01 6:55 [PATCH] swapin readahead v3 + kswapd fixes Rik van Riel
1998-12-01 8:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-12-01 15:28 ` Rik van Riel
1998-12-17 1:24 ` Linus Torvalds
1998-12-19 17:09 ` New patch (was Re: [PATCH] swapin readahead v3 + kswapd fixes) Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-12-19 18:41 ` Linus Torvalds
1998-12-19 19:41 ` Linus Torvalds
1998-12-19 22:01 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-12-20 3:05 ` Linus Torvalds
1998-12-20 14:18 ` Linus Torvalds
1998-12-21 13:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-12-21 13:39 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-12-21 14:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-12-21 16:42 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-12-21 9:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-12-21 16:37 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-12-21 17:58 ` Linus Torvalds
1998-12-21 18:59 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-12-21 19:38 ` Linus Torvalds
1998-12-22 7:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
1998-12-22 10:49 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-12-22 15:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
1998-12-22 15:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-12-22 16:26 ` Linus Torvalds
1998-12-22 19:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
1998-12-22 20:25 ` Rik van Riel
1998-12-22 21:56 ` Linus Torvalds
1998-12-22 20:10 ` Rik van Riel
1998-12-22 22:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-12-23 8:45 ` Rik van Riel
1998-12-22 20:03 ` Rik van Riel [this message]
1998-12-22 17:23 ` [patch] swap_out now really free (the right) pages [Re: New patch (was Re: [PATCH] swapin readahead v3 + kswapd fixes)] Andrea Arcangeli
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