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From: Rik van Riel <H.H.vanRiel@phys.uu.nl>
To: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
Cc: "Benjamin C.R. LaHaise" <blah@kvack.org>, Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: cp file /dev/zero <-> cache [was Re: increasing page size]
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 00:10:09 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.980719000622.27620E-100000@mirkwood.dummy.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <199807131342.OAA06485@dax.dcs.ed.ac.uk>

On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote:

> I'm working on it right now.  Currently, the VM is so bad that it is
> seriously getting in the way of my job.  Just trying to fix some odd
> swapper bugs is impossible to test because I can't set up a ramdisk for
> swap and do in-memory tests that way: things thrash incredibly.  The
> algorithms for aggressive cache pruning rely on fractions of
> nr_physpages, and that simply doesn't work if you have large numbers of
> pages dedicated to non-swappable things such as ramdisk, bigphysarea DMA
> buffers or network buffers.

This means we'll have to substract those pages before
determining the used percentage.

> Rik, unfortunately I think we're just going to have to back out your
> cache page ageing.  I've just done that on my local test box and the
> results are *incredible*:

OK, I don't see much problems with that, except that the
aging helps a _lot_ with readahead. For the rest, it's
not much more than a kludge anyway ;(

We really ought to do better than that anyway. I'll give
you guys the URL of the Digital Unix manuals on this...
(they have some _very_ nice mechanisms for this)

> I'm going to do a bit more experimenting to see if we can keep some of
> the good ageing behaviour by doing proper LRU in the cache, but
> otherwise I think the cache ageing has either got to go or to be
> drastically altered.

A 2-level LRU on the page cache would be _very_ nice,
but probably just as desastrous wrt. fragmentation as
aging...

Rik.
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  reply	other threads:[~1998-07-18 22:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <199807091442.PAA01020@dax.dcs.ed.ac.uk>
1998-07-09 18:59 ` Rik van Riel
1998-07-09 23:37   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-07-10  5:57     ` Rik van Riel
1998-07-11 14:14 ` Rik van Riel
1998-07-11 21:23   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-07-11 22:25     ` Rik van Riel
1998-07-13 13:23       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-07-12  1:47     ` Benjamin C.R. LaHaise
1998-07-13 13:42       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-07-18 22:10         ` Rik van Riel [this message]
1998-07-20 16:04           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-07-09 13:01 Zachary Amsden
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.3.96.980705072829.17879D-100000@mirkwood.dummy.home>
1998-07-05 11:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-07-05 17:00   ` Rik van Riel
1998-07-05 18:38     ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-07-05 19:31       ` Rik van Riel
1998-07-06 10:38         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-07-06 11:42           ` Rik van Riel
1998-07-06 14:20         ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-07-06 10:31       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-07-06 12:34         ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-07-06 14:36           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-07-06 19:28             ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-07-07 12:01               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-07-07 15:54                 ` Rik van Riel
1998-07-07 17:32                   ` Benjamin C.R. LaHaise
1998-07-08 13:54                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-07-08 21:19                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-07-11 11:18                         ` Rik van Riel
1998-07-11 21:11                           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-07-08 13:45                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-07-08 18:57                     ` Rik van Riel
1998-07-08 22:11                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-07-09  7:43                         ` Rik van Riel
1998-07-09 20:39                         ` Rik van Riel
1998-07-13 11:54                           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-07-05 18:57     ` MOLNAR Ingo
1998-07-06 10:24     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-07-06 13:37       ` Eric W. Biederman
1998-07-07 12:35         ` Stephen C. Tweedie

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