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From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Dave McCracken <dmccr@us.ibm.com>
Cc: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.5.43-mm2] New shared page table patch
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 06:50:43 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1021024064536.14473B-100000@gatekeeper.tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <188940000.1035314478@baldur.austin.ibm.com>

On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Dave McCracken wrote:

> 
> --On Tuesday, October 22, 2002 12:02:27 -0700 "Martin J. Bligh"
> <mbligh@aracnet.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> >Bill Davidsen wrote:
> >> I'm just trying to decide what this might do for a news server with
> >> hundreds of readers mmap()ing a GB history file. Benchmarks show the 2.5
> >> has more latency the 2.4, and this is likely to make that more obvious.
> > 
> > On the other hand, I don't think shared pagetables have an mmap hook,
> > though that'd be easy enough to add. And if you're not reading the whole 
> > history file, presumably the PTEs will only be sparsely instantiated
> > anyway.
> 
> Actually shared page tables work on any shared memory area, no matter how
> it was created.  When a page fault occurs and there's no pte page already
> allocated (the common case for any newly mapped region) it checks the vma
> to see if it's shared.  If it's shared, it gets the address_space for that
> vma, then walks through all the shared vmas looking for one that's mapped
> at the same address and offset and already has a pte page that can be
> shared.

That's more encouraging.
 
> So if your history file is mapped at the same address for all your
> processes then it will use shared page tables.  While it might be a nice
> add-on to allow sharing if they're mapped on the same pte page boundary,
> that doesn't seem likely enough to justify the extra work.

The reader processes are either forked (INN w/ daemon nnrpd) or pthreads
(twister, earthquake, diablo). So everything will be the same.

Another thought, how does this play with NUMA systems? I don't have the
problem, but presumably there are implications.

-- 
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
  CTO, TMR Associates, Inc
Doing interesting things with little computers since 1979.

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-10-24 10:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-10-18 23:06 Dave McCracken
2002-10-19  1:32 ` Ed Tomlinson
2002-10-19 19:17 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-10-19 19:36   ` Dave McCracken
2002-10-20  4:20     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-10-20  6:18   ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-21 14:55     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-10-21 15:21       ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-22  3:54         ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-10-22  5:55           ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-22 16:09             ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-22 16:14               ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-22 18:06                 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-10-22 19:02                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-22 19:21                     ` Dave McCracken
2002-10-24 10:50                       ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2002-10-24 14:22                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-24 14:38                           ` Dave McCracken
2002-10-24 14:51                             ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-25 17:31                           ` Bill Davidsen
2002-10-24 10:42                     ` Bill Davidsen
2002-10-22 17:19               ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-22 17:36                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-22 17:45                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-22 17:56                     ` Andrew Morton
2002-10-22 18:01                       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-22 19:03                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-10-22 20:23                           ` Alan Cox
2002-10-22 21:33                             ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-10-22 18:22                     ` Alan Cox
2002-10-22 18:47                       ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-10-22 18:55                         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-22 19:27                           ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-10-22 19:29                             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-10-22 19:56                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-10-22 14:26           ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-22 17:09             ` Andrew Morton
2002-10-22 17:15               ` Rik van Riel
2002-10-22 18:36                 ` Dave McCracken
2002-10-22 18:49                   ` Andrew Morton
2002-10-22 19:06                     ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-10-22 19:29                       ` Dave McCracken
2002-10-22 19:11                   ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-10-22 19:29                     ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-10-22 18:45               ` Gerrit Huizenga
2002-10-22 17:54             ` Bill Davidsen

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