From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
To: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@e-mind.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu, werner@suse.de, mlord@pobox.com,
"David S. Miller" <davem@dm.COBALTMICRO.COM>,
gandalf@szene.CH, adamk@3net.net.pl, kiracofe.8@osu.edu,
ksi@ksi-linux.COM, djf-lists@ic.NET, tomh@taz.ccs.fau.edu,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch] fixed both processes in D state and the /proc/ oopses [Re: [patch] Fixed the race that was oopsing Linux-2.2.0]
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 10:17:37 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.990128101220.32418I-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <199901281807.SAA03328@dax.scot.redhat.com>
On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote:
>
> Yep, but Andrea did point out what looks like at least one valid race:
> sys_wait* on a zombie task can remove and deallocate the task_struct
> without taking the global lock. Reverting the diff is the right thing
> for 2.2.1, but once we've done that we may need to look at either
> keeping the task lock until we have finished with the task_struct in
> array.c, or doing a memcpy on the task while we still have it locked.
> That does seem to be a valid fix.
I'd much rather just use some stale "struct task_struct" data.
What we _might_ do in /proc, is to just increment the usage count for the
(double) page that contains the task structure, so that even if a
release() does happen while we're using the page, the page won't get
re-used, and we can essentially look at all the info as it was when it was
released.
Note that by the time it has become a zombie, it will have released all
the mm stuff anyway, so we don't even have any dangerous stale mm pointers
that we'd follow: we'd only be looking at that one structure.
Voila, no memcpy(), no silly locks, no problems.
Anyway, for 2.2.1 I don't even want to be clever. As it is (with the bogus
array.c race "fixes" removed), the page may get freed without any kernel
lock, and we may return _completely_ bogus information, but that is (a)
extremely unlikely in the first place and (b) basically harmless and
pretty much impossible to exploit.
Linus
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~1999-01-28 18:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <Pine.LNX.3.96.990127123207.15486A-100000@laser.bogus>
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.3.96.990127131315.19147A-100000@laser.bogus>
1999-01-27 21:38 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-27 21:45 ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-28 1:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-28 2:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-28 4:20 ` [patch] fixed both processes in D state and the /proc/ oopses Tom Holroyd
1999-01-28 6:23 ` Tom Holroyd
1999-01-28 15:09 ` [patch] fixed both processes in D state and the /proc/ oopses [Re: [patch] Fixed the race that was oopsing Linux-2.2.0] Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-28 17:54 ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-28 18:07 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-28 18:17 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
1999-01-28 18:25 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-28 19:23 ` Alan Cox
1999-01-28 19:11 ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-28 20:11 ` Alan Cox
1999-01-28 22:33 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-28 22:53 ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-29 1:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-29 11:20 ` MOLNAR Ingo
1999-01-29 12:08 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-29 13:19 ` MOLNAR Ingo
1999-01-29 14:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-29 17:46 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
1999-01-29 14:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
1999-01-30 15:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-30 20:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
1999-01-31 1:00 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-31 8:36 ` Eric W. Biederman
1999-01-31 19:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-31 21:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
1999-01-29 18:24 ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-28 22:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-29 0:17 ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-28 17:36 ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-28 15:05 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
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