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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
To: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@e-mind.com>,
	Rik van Riel <H.H.vanRiel@phys.uu.nl>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Alan Cox <number6@the-village.bc.nu>
Subject: Re: New patch (was Re: [PATCH] swapin readahead v3 + kswapd fixes)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 09:58:10 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.981221095438.6187B-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <199812211637.QAA02759@dax.scot.redhat.com>



On Mon, 21 Dec 1998, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote:
> 
> pre2 works OK on low memory for me but its performance on 64MB sucks
> here.  pre3 works fine on 64MB but its performance on 8MB sucks even
> more.

I'm testing it now - the problem is probably just due to my mixing up the
pre-2 and pre-3 patches, and pre-3 got the "timid" memory freeing
parameters even though the whole point of the pre-3 approach is that it
isn't needed any more.

>	  You simply CANNOT tell from looking at the code that it "will
> work well for everybody out there on every hardware".  

Agreed.

However, I very much believe that tweaking comes _after_ the basic
arhictecture is right. Before the basic architecture is correct, any
tweaking is useful only to (a) try to make do with a bad setup and (b) 
give hints as to what makes a difference, and what the basic architecture
_should_ be. 

As such, your "current != kswapd" tweak gave a whopping good hint about
what the architecture _should_ be. And we'll be zeroing in on something
that has both the performance and the architecture right. 

		Linus

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  reply	other threads:[~1998-12-21 17:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1998-12-01  6:55 [PATCH] swapin readahead v3 + kswapd fixes Rik van Riel
1998-12-01  8:15 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-12-01 15:28   ` Rik van Riel
1998-12-17  1:24 ` Linus Torvalds
1998-12-19 17:09   ` New patch (was Re: [PATCH] swapin readahead v3 + kswapd fixes) Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-12-19 18:41     ` Linus Torvalds
1998-12-19 19:41     ` Linus Torvalds
1998-12-19 22:01       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-12-20  3:05         ` Linus Torvalds
1998-12-20 14:18         ` Linus Torvalds
1998-12-21 13:03           ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-12-21 13:39           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-12-21 14:08             ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-12-21 16:42               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-12-21  9:53     ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-12-21 16:37       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-12-21 17:58         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
1998-12-21 18:59           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-12-21 19:38             ` Linus Torvalds
1998-12-22  7:56           ` Eric W. Biederman
1998-12-22 10:49             ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-12-22 15:32               ` Eric W. Biederman
1998-12-22 15:40                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-12-22 16:26                   ` Linus Torvalds
1998-12-22 19:55                     ` Eric W. Biederman
1998-12-22 20:25                     ` Rik van Riel
1998-12-22 21:56                       ` Linus Torvalds
1998-12-22 20:10                   ` Rik van Riel
1998-12-22 22:35                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
1998-12-23  8:45                       ` Rik van Riel
1998-12-22 20:03                 ` Rik van Riel
1998-12-22 17:23               ` [patch] swap_out now really free (the right) pages [Re: New patch (was Re: [PATCH] swapin readahead v3 + kswapd fixes)] Andrea Arcangeli

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