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From: Rik van Riel <H.H.vanRiel@fys.ruu.nl>
To: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@dcs.ed.ac.uk>
Cc: Rogier Wolff <R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl>,
	torvalds@transmeta.com, blah@kvack.org, nahshon@actcom.co.il,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, paubert@iram.es,
	linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu, mingo@chiara.csoma.elte.hu,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: Fairness in love and swapping
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 00:21:44 +0100 (MET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.980226235834.5141B-100000@mirkwood.dummy.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <199802262241.WAA03911@dax.dcs.ed.ac.uk>

On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote:

> > We could:
> > - force-swap out processes which have slept for some time
> > - suspend & force-swap out the largest process
> > - wake it up again when there are two proceses waiting on
> >   it (to prevent X from being swapped out)
> 
> Define the number of processes waiting on a given process?
> 
> Another way of making the distinction between batch and interactive
> processes might be to observe that interactive processes spend some of
> their time in "S" (interruptible sleep) state, whereas we expect
> compute-bound jobs to be in "R" or "D" state most of the time.
> However, that breaks down too when you consider batch jobs involving
> pipelines, such as gcc -pipe.

I think we should give programs points based on several
things:
time_in + how long has it been in-core in seconds (300 max)
data_sz + RSS + DSIZE (#pages)
fil_dsc - number of file descriptors (if it has loads of
          file descriptors, it communicates a lot with the environment
          and is less likely a batch process)
slp_tim + how long has it been sleeping (to force-swap, but not
          suspend sleeping processes) in seconds (300 max)
run_tim + how long has it been running/blocking without 'interactive'
          syscalls or state changes in seconds (300 max)
is_root - euid = 0 (500 points)

The more (+) points a process has, the more likely it is
going to be selected for swapout. Now we got to make some
nice formula to select the processes and the swapout time.

Maybe:

points= time_in + (data_sz / fil_dsc) + slp_tim + run_tim - is_root4~

or:

points= (time_in / fil_dsc) + data_sz + slp_tim + run_tim - is_root
         ^^^^^max 300pt total

When swapping is needed, we simply walk the process table
and swap out the process with the most points...
But we _need_ to be sure that we don't pick X for a 30 second
break ... How do we do that?

Rik.
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  reply	other threads:[~1998-02-26 23:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1998-02-25 20:32 Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-02-25 21:02 ` Linus Torvalds
1998-02-25 21:44   ` Rik van Riel
1998-02-25 21:39 ` Dr. Werner Fink
1998-02-25 22:27   ` Rik van Riel
1998-02-26 11:03     ` Dr. Werner Fink
1998-02-26 11:34       ` Rik van Riel
1998-02-26 18:57         ` Dr. Werner Fink
1998-02-26 19:32           ` Rik van Riel
1998-02-26 22:44         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-02-26 23:34           ` Rik van Riel
1998-02-27 19:41             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-03-02 16:19               ` Rik van Riel
1998-03-02 22:35                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-03-02 23:14                   ` Rik van Riel
1998-03-03 22:59                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-02-26  8:05 ` Rogier Wolff
1998-02-26 13:00   ` Dr. Werner Fink
1998-02-26 22:36     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-02-26 23:20       ` Dr. Werner Fink
1998-02-26 14:30   ` Rik van Riel
1998-02-26 22:41     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-02-26 23:21       ` Rik van Riel [this message]
1998-02-26 22:33   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1998-02-26 22:49     ` Rik van Riel
1998-02-27  2:56     ` Michael O'Reilly
     [not found] <199802270729.IAA00680@cave.BitWizard.nl>
1998-02-27 11:26 ` Rik van Riel

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