From: Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>
To: Manfred Spraul <manfreds@colorfullife.com>
Cc: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>,
Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@chiara.csoma.elte.hu>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: locking question: do_mmap(), do_munmap()
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:37:40 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910111733310.18777-100000@weyl.math.psu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <38022640.3447ECA6@colorfullife.com>
On Mon, 11 Oct 1999, Manfred Spraul wrote:
> Alexander Viro wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 11 Oct 1999, Stephen C. Tweedie wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Sun, 10 Oct 1999 15:03:45 -0400 (EDT), Alexander Viro
> > > <viro@math.psu.edu> said:
> > >
> > > > Hold on. In swap_out_mm() you have to protect find_vma() (OK, it doesn't
> > > > block, but we'll have to take care of mm->mmap_cache) _and_ you'll have to
> > > > protect vma from destruction all way down to try_to_swap_out(). And to
> > > > vma->swapout(). Which can sleep, so spinlocks are out of question
> > > > here.
> > >
> > > No, spinlocks would be ideal. The vma swapout codes _have_ to be
> > > prepared for the vma to be destroyed as soon as we sleep. In fact, the
> > > entire mm may disappear if the process happens to exit. Once we know
> > > which page to write where, the swapout operation becomes a per-page
> > > operation, not per-vma.
> >
> > Aha, so you propose to drop it in ->swapout(), right? (after get_file() in
> > filemap_write_page()... Ouch. Probably we'ld better lambda-expand the call
> > in filemap_swapout() - the thing is called from other places too)...
>
> What about something like a rw-semaphore which protects the vma list:
> vma-list modifiers [ie merge_segments(), insert_vm_struct() and
> do_munmap()] grab it exclusive, swapper grabs it "shared, starve
> exclusive".
> All other vma-list readers are protected by mm->mmap_sem.
>
> This should not dead-lock, and no changes are required in
> vm_ops->swapout().
What does it buy you over the simple semaphore here? Do you really see a
contention scenario?
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1999-10-10 15:52 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-10 16:07 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-10 16:25 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-10 16:45 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-10 17:25 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-10 17:12 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-10-10 17:48 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-10 18:42 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-10 19:03 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-10 21:31 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-10 21:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-10-10 22:34 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-10 23:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-10-11 15:50 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 16:05 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-11 18:02 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-11 19:07 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-10-11 22:23 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-13 1:25 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-10-13 7:32 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-15 9:58 ` Ralf Baechle
1999-10-15 17:50 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-10-13 10:45 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 20:15 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 21:14 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-11 21:37 ` Alexander Viro [this message]
1999-10-11 22:13 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-11 22:22 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 23:01 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-12 14:06 ` [more fun] " Alexander Viro
1999-10-13 7:35 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-13 18:34 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-10-13 10:16 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 20:13 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 21:40 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-11 22:20 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 22:31 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-13 10:25 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 15:47 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 15:43 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-10 16:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-10-11 15:41 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 15:52 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-09 12:48 Manfred Spraul
1999-10-09 13:12 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-09 13:17 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-09 13:38 ` Alexander Viro
1999-10-09 16:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-10-10 13:05 ` Manfred Spraul
1999-10-11 15:09 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-10-11 15:05 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
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