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From: Chuck Lever <cel@monkey.org>
To: Kanoj Sarcar <kanoj@google.engr.sgi.com>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
	torvalds@transmeta.com, sct@redhat.com, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Fix swapoff races
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:39:43 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.BSO.4.10.9906281530400.24888-100000@funky.monkey.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <199906280148.SAA94463@google.engr.sgi.com>

On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Kanoj Sarcar wrote:
> Basically, all these operations are synchronized by the process
> mmap_sem. Unfortunately, swapoff has to visit all processes, during
> which it must hold tasklist_lock, a spinlock. Hence, it can not take
> the mmap_sem, a sleeping mutex. So, the patch links up all active
> mm's in a list that swapoff can visit (with minor restructuring, 
> kswapd can also use this, although it can not hold mmap_sem).
> Addition/deletions to the list are protected by a sleeping 
> mutex, hence swapoff can grab the individual mmap_sems, while
> preventing changes to the list. Effectively, process creation
> and destruction are locked out if swapoff is running.
> 
> To do this, the lock ordering is mm_sem -> mmap_sem. To 
> prevent deadlocks, care must be taken that a process invoking
> delete/insert_mmlist does not have its own mmap_sem held. For
> this, the do_fork path needs to change so as not to acquire
> mmap_sem early, rather only when it is really needed. This does
> not open up a resource-ordering problem between kernel_lock and
> mmap_sem, since the kernel_lock is a monitor lock that is released
> at schedule time, so no deadlocks are possible.

i'm already working on a patch that will allow kswapd to grab the mmap_sem
for the task that is about to be swapped.  this takes a slightly different
approach, since i'm focusing on kswapd and not on swapoff.  essentially
the patch does two things:

1)  it separates the logic of try_to_free_pages() and kswapd.  kswapd now
does the swapping, while try_to_free_pages() only does the shrink_mmap()
phase.

2)  after kswapd has chosen a process to swap, it drops the kernel lock
and grabs the mmap_sem for the thing it's about to swap.  it picks up the
kernel lock at appropriate points lower in the code.

i think it simplifies things a lot; there is no longer a concern about a
process deadlocking when re-acquiring it's own semaphore.  and, swapping
and page-fault handling for a given object can be serialized via the
object's mmap_sem.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~1999-06-28 19:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-06-21  5:29 filecache/swapcache questions Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-21 11:25 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-21 16:46   ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-21 16:57     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-21 17:36       ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-21 17:49         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-21 18:46           ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-21 23:44             ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-24 22:23               ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-24 23:55                 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-25  0:26                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-28  1:48                     ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Fix swapoff races Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 10:35                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-28 17:11                         ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 16:32                       ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Fix swapoff races Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 17:25                         ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 20:40                           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 21:11                             ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 22:12                               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 23:43                                 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-29 11:44                                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 22:01                                     ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-30 17:28                                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-30 18:05                                         ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 19:39                       ` Chuck Lever [this message]
1999-06-28 19:55                         ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 20:33                           ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 20:51                             ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 21:32                               ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 21:38                                 ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 21:50                                   ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 22:15                                     ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-29 11:23                                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 17:36                                         ` Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 22:22                                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 22:21                                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 22:57                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-29  2:13                                     ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-29 12:01                                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 12:32                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-30 15:59                                           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29  1:00                                   ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 22:08                               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 22:59                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-29  0:53                                 ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-29 11:14                                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 22:09                           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 20:45                         ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Fix swapoff races Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 21:14                           ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-28 21:25                             ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Kanoj Sarcar
1999-06-28 22:15                             ` filecache/swapcache questions [RFC] [RFT] [PATCH] kanoj-mm12-2.3.8 Fix swapoff races Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 22:48                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-29  1:29                               ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-29 11:58                                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 12:09                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-29 15:27                                   ` Chuck Lever
1999-06-29 11:55                               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-29 20:08                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-06-28 22:36             ` filecache/swapcache questions Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-06-28 23:24               ` Kanoj Sarcar

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