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From: "Liu, Yuan1" <yuan1.liu@intel.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
Cc: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"Hu, Yong" <yong.hu@intel.com>,
	"Zou, Nanhai" <nanhai.zou@intel.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Zhuo, Qiuxu" <qiuxu.zhuo@intel.com>,
	"Chen, Yu C" <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
	"Deng, Pan" <pan.deng@intel.com>,
	"Li, Tianyou" <tianyou.li@intel.com>,
	"Chen Zhang" <zhangchen.kidd@jd.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v3] mm/memory hotplug/unplug: Optimize zone contiguous check when changing pfn range
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2026 07:06:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <MW4PR11MB6936CA77BF02BF498BBEAB1CA3252@MW4PR11MB6936.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e86fee84-08d8-4563-8596-e40d8e196799@kernel.org>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Hildenbrand (Arm) <david@kernel.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2026 11:08 PM
> To: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
> Cc: Liu, Yuan1 <yuan1.liu@intel.com>; Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>;
> Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>; linux-mm@kvack.org; Hu, Yong
> <yong.hu@intel.com>; Zou, Nanhai <nanhai.zou@intel.com>; Tim Chen
> <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>; Zhuo, Qiuxu <qiuxu.zhuo@intel.com>; Chen, Yu
> C <yu.c.chen@intel.com>; Deng, Pan <pan.deng@intel.com>; Li, Tianyou
> <tianyou.li@intel.com>; Chen Zhang <zhangchen.kidd@jd.com>; linux-
> kernel@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] mm/memory hotplug/unplug: Optimize zone contiguous
> check when changing pfn range
> 
> On 4/9/26 16:40, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 08, 2026 at 09:36:14AM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> >> On 4/8/26 05:16, Yuan Liu wrote:
> >>> When move_pfn_range_to_zone() or remove_pfn_range_from_zone() updates
> a
> >>> zone, set_zone_contiguous() rescans the entire zone pageblock-by-
> pageblock
> >>> to rebuild zone->contiguous. For large zones this is a significant
> cost
> >>> during memory hotplug and hot-unplug.
> >>>
> >>> Add a new zone member pages_with_online_memmap that tracks the number
> of
> >>> pages within the zone span that have an online memory map (including
> present
> >>> pages and memory holes whose memory map has been initialized). When
> >>> spanned_pages == pages_with_online_memmap the zone is contiguous and
> >>> pfn_to_page() can be called on any PFN in the zone span without
> further
> >>> pfn_valid() checks.
> >>>
> >>> Only pages that fall within the current zone span are accounted
> towards
> >>> pages_with_online_memmap. A "too small" value is safe, it merely
> prevents
> >>> detecting a contiguous zone.
> >>>
> >>> The following test cases of memory hotplug for a VM [1], tested in the
> >>> environment [2], show that this optimization can significantly reduce
> the
> >>> memory hotplug time [3].
> >>>
> >>> +----------------+------+---------------+--------------+--------------
> --+
> >>> |                | Size | Time (before) | Time (after) | Time
> Reduction |
> >>> |                +------+---------------+--------------+--------------
> --+
> >>> | Plug Memory    | 256G |      10s      |      3s      |       70%
> |
> >>> |                +------+---------------+--------------+--------------
> --+
> >>> |                | 512G |      36s      |      7s      |       81%
> |
> >>> +----------------+------+---------------+--------------+--------------
> --+
> >>>
> >>> +----------------+------+---------------+--------------+--------------
> --+
> >>> |                | Size | Time (before) | Time (after) | Time
> Reduction |
> >>> |                +------+---------------+--------------+--------------
> --+
> >>> | Unplug Memory  | 256G |      11s      |      4s      |       64%
> |
> >>> |                +------+---------------+--------------+--------------
> --+
> >>> |                | 512G |      36s      |      9s      |       75%
> |
> >>> +----------------+------+---------------+--------------+--------------
> --+
> >>>
> >>> [1] Qemu commands to hotplug 256G/512G memory for a VM:
> >>>     object_add memory-backend-ram,id=hotmem0,size=256G/512G,share=on
> >>>     device_add virtio-mem-pci,id=vmem1,memdev=hotmem0,bus=port1
> >>>     qom-set vmem1 requested-size 256G/512G (Plug Memory)
> >>>     qom-set vmem1 requested-size 0G (Unplug Memory)
> >>>
> >>> [2] Hardware     : Intel Icelake server
> >>>     Guest Kernel : v7.0-rc4
> >>>     Qemu         : v9.0.0
> >>>
> >>>     Launch VM    :
> >>>     qemu-system-x86_64 -accel kvm -cpu host \
> >>>     -drive file=./Centos10_cloud.qcow2,format=qcow2,if=virtio \
> >>>     -drive file=./seed.img,format=raw,if=virtio \
> >>>     -smp 3,cores=3,threads=1,sockets=1,maxcpus=3 \
> >>>     -m 2G,slots=10,maxmem=2052472M \
> >>>     -device pcie-root-port,id=port1,bus=pcie.0,slot=1,multifunction=on
> \
> >>>     -device pcie-root-port,id=port2,bus=pcie.0,slot=2 \
> >>>     -nographic -machine q35 \
> >>>     -nic user,hostfwd=tcp::3000-:22
> >>>
> >>>     Guest kernel auto-onlines newly added memory blocks:
> >>>     echo online > /sys/devices/system/memory/auto_online_blocks
> >>>
> >>> [3] The time from typing the QEMU commands in [1] to when the output
> of
> >>>     'grep MemTotal /proc/meminfo' on Guest reflects that all
> hotplugged
> >>>     memory is recognized.
> >>>
> >>> Reported-by: Nanhai Zou <nanhai.zou@intel.com>
> >>> Reported-by: Chen Zhang <zhangchen.kidd@jd.com>
> >>> Tested-by: Yuan Liu <yuan1.liu@intel.com>
> >>> Reviewed-by: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
> >>> Reviewed-by: Qiuxu Zhuo <qiuxu.zhuo@intel.com>
> >>> Reviewed-by: Yu C Chen <yu.c.chen@intel.com>
> >>> Reviewed-by: Pan Deng <pan.deng@intel.com>
> >>> Reviewed-by: Nanhai Zou <nanhai.zou@intel.com>
> >>> Co-developed-by: Tianyou Li <tianyou.li@intel.com>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Tianyou Li <tianyou.li@intel.com>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Yuan Liu <yuan1.liu@intel.com>
> >>> Acked-by: David Hildenbrand (Arm) <david@kernel.org>
> >>> ---
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >>> @@ -842,7 +842,7 @@ overlap_memmap_init(unsigned long zone, unsigned
> long *pfn)
> >>>   *   zone/node above the hole except for the trailing pages in the
> last
> >>>   *   section that will be appended to the zone/node below.
> >>>   */
> >>> -static void __init init_unavailable_range(unsigned long spfn,
> >>> +static unsigned long __init init_unavailable_range(unsigned long
> spfn,
> >>>  					  unsigned long epfn,
> >>>  					  int zone, int node)
> >>>  {
> >>> @@ -858,6 +858,7 @@ static void __init init_unavailable_range(unsigned
> long spfn,
> >>>  	if (pgcnt)
> >>>  		pr_info("On node %d, zone %s: %lld pages in unavailable
> ranges\n",
> >>>  			node, zone_names[zone], pgcnt);
> >>> +	return pgcnt;
> >>>  }
> >>>
> >>>  /*
> >>> @@ -956,9 +957,22 @@ static void __init memmap_init_zone_range(struct
> zone *zone,
> >>>  	memmap_init_range(end_pfn - start_pfn, nid, zone_id, start_pfn,
> >>>  			  zone_end_pfn, MEMINIT_EARLY, NULL, MIGRATE_MOVABLE,
> >>>  			  false);
> >>> +	zone->pages_with_online_memmap += end_pfn - start_pfn;
> >>>
> >>> -	if (*hole_pfn < start_pfn)
> >>> -		init_unavailable_range(*hole_pfn, start_pfn, zone_id, nid);
> >>> +	if (*hole_pfn < start_pfn) {
> >>> +		unsigned long pgcnt;
> >>> +
> >>> +		if (*hole_pfn < zone_start_pfn) {
> >>> +			init_unavailable_range(*hole_pfn, zone_start_pfn,
> >>> +					       zone_id, nid);
> >>> +			pgcnt = init_unavailable_range(zone_start_pfn,
> >>> +					start_pfn, zone_id, nid);
> >>
> >> Indentation of parameters.
> >>
> >>> +		} else {
> >>> +			pgcnt = init_unavailable_range(*hole_pfn, start_pfn,
> >>> +					zone_id, nid);
> >>
> >>
> >> Same here.
> >>
> >>> +		}
> >>> +		zone->pages_with_online_memmap += pgcnt;
> >>> +	}
> >>
> >>
> >> Maybe something like the following could make it nicer to read, just a
> >> thought.
> >>
> >>
> >> unsigned long hole_start_pfn = *hole_pfn;
> >>
> >> if (hole_start_pfn < zone_start_pfn) {
> >> 	init_unavailable_range(hole_start_pfn, zone_start_pfn,
> >> 			       zone_id, nid);
> >> 	hole_start_pfn = zone_start_pfn;
> >> }
> >> pgcnt = init_unavailable_range(hole_start_pfn, start_pfn,
> >> 			       zone_id, nid);
> >>
> >
> > Yeah, this looks better :)
> >
> > sashiko had several comments
> > https://sashiko.dev/#/patchset/20260408031615.1831922-1-
> yuan1.liu%40intel.com
> >
> > I skipped the ones related to hotplug, but in the mm_init part the
> comment
> > about zones that can have overlapping physical spans when mirrored
> > kernelcore is enabled seems valid.

Hi David & Mike

I’ve spent some time working through these issues to better understand them.
For the overlapping physical spans(mirrored kernelcore), should I avoid counting 
overlap_memmap_init in memmap_init_range in the next version? 
For example, change it as follows: 

+unsigned long __meminit
+memmap_init_range(unsigned long size, int nid, unsigned long zone,
+               unsigned long start_pfn,
+               unsigned long zone_end_pfn,
                enum meminit_context context,
                struct vmem_altmap *altmap, int migratetype,
                bool isolate_pageblock)
 {
        unsigned long pfn, end_pfn = start_pfn + size;
+       unsigned long nr_init = 0;
        struct page *page;

        if (highest_memmap_pfn < end_pfn - 1)
@@ -893,7 +897,7 @@ void __meminit memmap_init_range(unsigned long size, int nid, unsigned long zone
        if (zone == ZONE_DEVICE) {
                if (!altmap)
-                       return;
+                       return 0;

                if (start_pfn == altmap->base_pfn)
                        start_pfn += altmap->reserve;
@@ -911,6 +915,7 @@ void __meminit memmap_init_range(unsigned long size, int nid, unsigned long zone
                        if (defer_init(nid, pfn, zone_end_pfn)) {
                                deferred_struct_pages = true;
+                               nr_init += end_pfn - pfn;
                                break;
                        }
                }
@@ -935,8 +940,10 @@ void __meminit memmap_init_range(unsigned long size, int nid, unsigned long zone
                        cond_resched();
                }
+               nr_init++;
                pfn++;
        }
+       return nr_init;
}

@ -954,13 +962,21 @@ static void __init memmap_init_zone_range(struct zone *zone,
        if (start_pfn >= end_pfn)
                return;
+       nr_pages = memmap_init_range(end_pfn - start_pfn, nid, zone_id,
+                                    start_pfn, zone_end_pfn, MEMINIT_EARLY,
+                                    NULL, MIGRATE_MOVABLE, false);
+       zone->pages_with_online_memmap += nr_pages;
+

> The set_zone_contiguous/clear_zone_contiguous can be ignored I think.
> 
> The comment about shrink_zone_span() is likely not realistic.
> shrink_zone_span() would not shrink over boot holes.
> 
> Well, unless we have an odd case where the hole+memory starts in the
> middle of a "PAGES_PER_SUBSECTION". That would already be problematic if
> memory starts/ends in the middle of a PAGES_PER_SUBSECTION chunk. I
> don't such a case exists.
> 
> We could improve shrink_zone_span() to let
> find_smallest_section_pfn/find_biggest_section_pfn test the pfn_to_nid()
> and page_zone() not on;y on the smallest/highest pfn, but also on the
> highest/smallest PFN in a PAGES_PER_SUBSECTION chunk.
> 
> No need to test pfn_to_online_page() twice, as that is the same result
> for all pages in a PAGES_PER_SUBSECTION chunk.

Hi David

I think I understand your point. 
Just to confirm, should the improvement to shrink_zone_span be included in this patch?

> --
> Cheers,
> 
> David

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-14  7:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-08  3:16 Yuan Liu
2026-04-08  7:36 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-08 12:29   ` Liu, Yuan1
2026-04-08 12:31     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-08 12:37       ` Liu, Yuan1
2026-04-09 14:40   ` Mike Rapoport
2026-04-09 15:08     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-14  7:06       ` Liu, Yuan1 [this message]
2026-04-14  9:24         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-13 13:06 ` Wei Yang
2026-04-13 18:24   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-04-14  2:12     ` Wei Yang
2026-04-14  9:32       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)

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