From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Daniel Colascione <dancol@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 resend 1/2] mm: Add an F_SEAL_FUTURE_WRITE seal to memfd
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 15:14:02 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <F8A6A5DC-3BA0-43BD-B7EC-EDE199B33A02@amacapital.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKOZuetZrL10zWwn4Jzzg0QL2nd3Fm0JxGtzC79SZAfOK525Ag@mail.gmail.com>
> On Nov 9, 2018, at 2:42 PM, Daniel Colascione <dancol@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 2:37 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
>>> Another, more general fix might be to prevent /proc/pid/fd/N opens
>>> from "upgrading" access modes. But that'd be a bigger ABI break.
>>
>> I think we should fix that, too. I consider it a bug fix, not an ABI break, personally.
>
> Someone, somewhere is probably relying on it though, and that means
> that we probably can't change it unless it's actually causing
> problems.
>
> <mumble>spacebar heating</mumble>
I think it has caused problems in the past. It’s certainly extremely surprising behavior. I’d say it should be fixed and, if needed, a sysctl to unfix it might be okay.
>
>>>> That aside: I wonder whether a better API would be something that
>>>> allows you to create a new readonly file descriptor, instead of
>>>> fiddling with the writability of an existing fd.
>>>
>>> That doesn't work, unfortunately. The ashmem API we're replacing with
>>> memfd requires file descriptor continuity. I also looked into opening
>>> a new FD and dup2(2)ing atop the old one, but this approach doesn't
>>> work in the case that the old FD has already leaked to some other
>>> context (e.g., another dup, SCM_RIGHTS). See
>>> https://developer.android.com/ndk/reference/group/memory. We can't
>>> break ASharedMemory_setProt.
>>
>>
>> Hmm. If we fix the general reopen bug, a way to drop write access from an existing struct file would do what Android needs, right? I don’t know if there are general VFS issues with that.
>
> I also proposed that. :-) Maybe it'd work best as a special case of
> the perennial revoke(2) that people keep proposing. You'd be able to
> selectively revoke all access or just write access.
Sounds good to me, modulo possible races, but that shouldn’t be too hard to deal with.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-11-09 23:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-08 4:15 Joel Fernandes (Google)
2018-11-08 4:15 ` [PATCH v3 resend 2/2] selftests/memfd: Add tests for F_SEAL_FUTURE_WRITE seal Joel Fernandes (Google)
2018-11-09 8:49 ` [PATCH v3 resend 1/2] mm: Add an F_SEAL_FUTURE_WRITE seal to memfd Joel Fernandes
2018-11-09 20:36 ` Andrew Morton
2018-11-10 3:54 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-11-09 21:06 ` Jann Horn
2018-11-09 21:19 ` Jann Horn
2018-11-10 3:20 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-11-10 6:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-10 18:24 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-11-10 18:45 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-10 19:11 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-10 19:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-10 22:09 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-11-10 22:18 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-11 2:38 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-11-11 3:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-11 4:01 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-11-11 8:09 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-11-11 8:30 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-11 15:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-11 17:36 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-11-10 12:26 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-10 17:10 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-11-09 21:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-09 20:02 ` Michael Tirado
2018-11-10 1:49 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-11-09 22:20 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-09 22:37 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-09 22:42 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-09 23:14 ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2018-11-10 1:36 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-11-09 23:46 ` Joel Fernandes
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