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From: "Li, Liang Z" <liang.z.li@intel.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	"Hansen, Dave" <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"mhocko@suse.com" <mhocko@suse.com>,
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	"dgilbert@redhat.com" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
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	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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	<virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com"
	<kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Subject: RE: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH kernel v5 0/5] Extend virtio-balloon for fast (de)inflating & fast live migration
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 12:39:01 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <F2CBF3009FA73547804AE4C663CAB28E3C32C4D5@shsmsx102.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161216160112.GC6168@redhat.com>

> Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH kernel v5 0/5] Extend virtio-balloon for
> fast (de)inflating & fast live migration
> 
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 05:40:45PM -0800, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > On 12/15/2016 05:38 PM, Li, Liang Z wrote:
> > >
> > > Use 52 bits for 'pfn', 12 bits for 'length', when the 12 bits is not long
> enough for the 'length'
> > > Set the 'length' to a special value to indicate the "actual length in next 8
> bytes".
> > >
> > > That will be much more simple. Right?
> >
> > Sounds fine to me.
> >
> 
> Sounds fine to me too indeed.
> 
> I'm only wondering what is the major point for compressing gpfn+len in
> 8 bytes in the common case, you already use sg_init_table to send down two
> pages, we could send three as well and avoid all math and bit shifts and ors,
> or not?
> 

Yes, we can use more pages for that.

> I agree with the above because from a performance prospective I tend to
> think the above proposal will run at least theoretically faster because the
> other way is to waste double amount of CPU cache, and bit mangling in the
> encoding and the later decoding on qemu side should be faster than
> accessing an array of double size, but then I'm not sure if it's measurable
> optimization. So I'd be curious to know the exact motivation and if it is to
> reduce the CPU cache usage or if there's some other fundamental reason to
> compress it.
> The header already tells qemu how big is the array payload, couldn't we just
> add more pages if one isn't enough?
> 

The original intention to compress the PFN and length it's to reduce the memory required.
Even the code was changed a lot from the previous versions, I think this is still true.

Now we allocate a specified buffer size to save the 'PFN|length', when the buffer is not big
enough to save all the page info for a specified order. A double size buffer will be allocated.
This is what we want to avoid because the allocation may fail and allocation takes some time,
for fast live migration, time is a critical factor we have to consider, more time takes means
more unnecessary pages are sent, because live migration starts before the request for unused
 pages get response. 

Thanks

Liang

> Thanks,
> Andrea

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      reply	other threads:[~2016-12-17 12:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-30  8:43 Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43 ` [PATCH kernel v5 1/5] virtio-balloon: rework deflate to add page to a list Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43 ` [PATCH kernel v5 2/5] virtio-balloon: define new feature bit and head struct Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43 ` [PATCH kernel v5 3/5] virtio-balloon: speed up inflate/deflate process Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43 ` [PATCH kernel v5 4/5] virtio-balloon: define flags and head for host request vq Liang Li
2016-11-30  8:43 ` [PATCH kernel v5 5/5] virtio-balloon: tell host vm's unused page info Liang Li
2016-11-30 19:15   ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-04 13:13     ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-05 17:22       ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-06  4:47         ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-06  8:40 ` [PATCH kernel v5 0/5] Extend virtio-balloon for fast (de)inflating & fast live migration David Hildenbrand
2016-12-07 13:35   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-07 15:34     ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-09  3:09       ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-07 15:42     ` David Hildenbrand
2016-12-07 15:45       ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-07 16:21         ` David Hildenbrand
2016-12-07 16:57           ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-07 18:38             ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-07 18:44               ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-07 18:58                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-07 19:54               ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-07 20:28                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-09  4:45                   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-09  4:53                     ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-09  5:35                       ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-09 16:42                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-14  8:20                           ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-14  8:59                       ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-15 15:34                         ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-15 15:54                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-12-16  1:12                             ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-16 15:40                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-17 11:56                                 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-16  0:48                           ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-16  1:09                             ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-16  1:38                               ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-16  1:40                                 ` Dave Hansen
2016-12-16  1:43                                   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-12-16 16:01                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2016-12-17 12:39                                     ` Li, Liang Z [this message]

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