From: "Li, Liang Z" <liang.z.li@intel.com>
To: Roman Kagan <rkagan@virtuozzo.com>,
"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"ehabkost@redhat.com" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
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Subject: RE: [Qemu-devel] [RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration optimization
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 14:19:04 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <F2CBF3009FA73547804AE4C663CAB28E041497EC@shsmsx102.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160309132210.GA5869@rkaganb.sw.ru>
> On Fri, Mar 04, 2016 at 06:51:21PM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > * Paolo Bonzini (pbonzini@redhat.com) wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On 04/03/2016 15:26, Li, Liang Z wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The memory usage will keep increasing due to ever growing
> > > >> > caches, etc, so you'll be left with very little free memory fairly soon.
> > > >> >
> > > > I don't think so.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Roman is right. For example, here I am looking at a 64 GB
> > > (physical) machine which was booted about 30 minutes ago, and which
> > > is running disk-heavy workloads (installing VMs).
> > >
> > > Since I have started writing this email (2 minutes?), the amount of
> > > free memory has already gone down from 37 GB to 33 GB. I expect
> > > that by the time I have finished running the workload, in two hours,
> > > it will not have any free memory.
> >
> > But what about a VM sitting idle, or that just has more RAM assigned
> > to it than is currently using.
> > I've got a host here that's been up for 46 days and has been doing
> > some heavy VM debugging a few days ago, but today:
> >
> > # free -m
> > total used free shared buff/cache available
> > Mem: 96536 1146 44834 184 50555 94735
> >
> > I very rarely use all it's RAM, so it's got a big chunk of free RAM,
> > and yes it's got a big chunk of cache as well.
>
> One of the promises of virtualization is better resource utilization.
> People tend to avoid purchasing VMs so much oversized that they never
> touch a significant amount of their RAM. (Well, at least this is how things
> stand in hosting market; I guess enterprize market is similar in this regard).
>
> That said, I'm not at all opposed to optimizing the migration of free memory;
> what I'm trying to say is that creating brand new infrastructure specifically for
> that case doesn't look justified when the existing one can cover it in addition
> to much more common scenarios.
>
> Roman.
Even the existing one can cover more common scenarios, but it has performance issue.
that's why I create a new one.
Liang
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Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-03 10:44 Liang Li
2016-03-03 10:44 ` [RFC qemu 1/4] pc: Add code to get the lowmem form PCMachineState Liang Li
2016-03-03 10:44 ` [RFC qemu 2/4] virtio-balloon: Add a new feature to balloon device Liang Li
2016-03-03 12:23 ` Cornelia Huck
2016-03-04 2:38 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-03 12:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-04 2:29 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-03 10:44 ` [RFC qemu 3/4] migration: not set migration bitmap in setup stage Liang Li
2016-03-03 10:44 ` [RFC qemu 4/4] migration: filter out guest's free pages in ram bulk stage Liang Li
2016-03-03 12:16 ` Cornelia Huck
2016-03-04 2:32 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-03 12:45 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2016-03-04 2:43 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-03 13:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration optimization Roman Kagan
2016-03-04 1:35 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-03 17:46 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-04 1:52 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-04 8:14 ` [Qemu-devel] " Roman Kagan
2016-03-04 9:08 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-04 10:23 ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-04 14:26 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-04 14:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-04 15:49 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-05 19:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-07 6:49 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-07 11:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-07 15:06 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-09 14:28 ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-09 15:27 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-09 15:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-10 1:41 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-10 12:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-09 15:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-09 17:04 ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-09 17:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-10 10:21 ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-09 19:38 ` Rik van Riel
2016-03-10 9:30 ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-04 16:24 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-04 18:51 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-07 5:34 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-09 13:22 ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-09 14:19 ` Li, Liang Z [this message]
2016-03-09 6:18 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-04 7:55 ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-04 8:23 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-04 8:35 ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-04 9:08 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-04 9:12 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-04 9:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-04 10:11 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-04 10:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-04 15:13 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-08 14:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-08 14:17 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-04 9:35 ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-08 11:13 ` Amit Shah
2016-03-08 13:11 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-10 7:44 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-10 7:57 ` Amit Shah
2016-03-10 8:36 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-10 11:18 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-11 2:38 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-14 17:03 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-15 3:31 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-15 10:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-15 11:11 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-15 19:55 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-16 1:20 ` Li, Liang Z
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