From: "Li, Liang Z" <liang.z.li@intel.com>
To: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
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Subject: RE: [RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration optimization
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 13:11:30 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <F2CBF3009FA73547804AE4C663CAB28E0414811E@shsmsx102.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160308111343.GM15443@grmbl.mre>
> Subject: Re: [RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration optimization
>
> On (Thu) 03 Mar 2016 [18:44:24], Liang Li wrote:
> > The current QEMU live migration implementation mark the all the
> > guest's RAM pages as dirtied in the ram bulk stage, all these pages
> > will be processed and that takes quit a lot of CPU cycles.
> >
> > From guest's point of view, it doesn't care about the content in free
> > pages. We can make use of this fact and skip processing the free pages
> > in the ram bulk stage, it can save a lot CPU cycles and reduce the
> > network traffic significantly while speed up the live migration
> > process obviously.
> >
> > This patch set is the QEMU side implementation.
> >
> > The virtio-balloon is extended so that QEMU can get the free pages
> > information from the guest through virtio.
> >
> > After getting the free pages information (a bitmap), QEMU can use it
> > to filter out the guest's free pages in the ram bulk stage. This make
> > the live migration process much more efficient.
> >
> > This RFC version doesn't take the post-copy and RDMA into
> > consideration, maybe both of them can benefit from this PV solution by
> > with some extra modifications.
>
> I like the idea, just have to prove (review) and test it a lot to ensure we don't
> end up skipping pages that matter.
>
> However, there are a couple of points:
>
> In my opinion, the information that's exchanged between the guest and the
> host should be exchanged over a virtio-serial channel rather than virtio-
> balloon. First, there's nothing related to the balloon here.
> It just happens to be memory info. Second, I would never enable balloon in
> a guest that I want to be performance-sensitive. So even if you add this as
> part of balloon, you'll find no one is using this solution.
>
> Secondly, I suggest virtio-serial, because it's meant exactly to exchange free-
> flowing information between a host and a guest, and you don't need to
> extend any part of the protocol for it (hence no changes necessary to the
> spec). You can see how spice, vnc, etc., use virtio-serial to exchange data.
>
>
> Amit
I don't like to use the virtio-balloon too, and it's confusing.
It's grate if the virtio-serial can be used, I will take a look at it.
Thanks for your suggestion!
Liang
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Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-03 10:44 Liang Li
2016-03-03 10:44 ` [RFC qemu 1/4] pc: Add code to get the lowmem form PCMachineState Liang Li
2016-03-03 10:44 ` [RFC qemu 2/4] virtio-balloon: Add a new feature to balloon device Liang Li
2016-03-03 12:23 ` Cornelia Huck
2016-03-04 2:38 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-03 12:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-04 2:29 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-03 10:44 ` [RFC qemu 3/4] migration: not set migration bitmap in setup stage Liang Li
2016-03-03 10:44 ` [RFC qemu 4/4] migration: filter out guest's free pages in ram bulk stage Liang Li
2016-03-03 12:16 ` Cornelia Huck
2016-03-04 2:32 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-03 12:45 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2016-03-04 2:43 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-03 13:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration optimization Roman Kagan
2016-03-04 1:35 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-03 17:46 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-04 1:52 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-04 8:14 ` [Qemu-devel] " Roman Kagan
2016-03-04 9:08 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-04 10:23 ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-04 14:26 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-04 14:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-04 15:49 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-05 19:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-07 6:49 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-07 11:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-07 15:06 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-09 14:28 ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-09 15:27 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-09 15:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-10 1:41 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-10 12:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-09 15:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-09 17:04 ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-09 17:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-10 10:21 ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-09 19:38 ` Rik van Riel
2016-03-10 9:30 ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-04 16:24 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-04 18:51 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-07 5:34 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-09 13:22 ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-09 14:19 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-09 6:18 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-04 7:55 ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-04 8:23 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-04 8:35 ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-04 9:08 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-04 9:12 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-04 9:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-04 10:11 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-04 10:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-04 15:13 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-08 14:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-08 14:17 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-04 9:35 ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-08 11:13 ` Amit Shah
2016-03-08 13:11 ` Li, Liang Z [this message]
2016-03-10 7:44 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-10 7:57 ` Amit Shah
2016-03-10 8:36 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-10 11:18 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-11 2:38 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-14 17:03 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-15 3:31 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-15 10:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-15 11:11 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-15 19:55 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-16 1:20 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-04 9:32 Jitendra Kolhe
2016-03-04 9:36 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-08 11:14 ` Amit Shah
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