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From: "Li, Liang Z" <liang.z.li@intel.com>
To: Roman Kagan <rkagan@virtuozzo.com>
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Subject: RE: [Qemu-devel] [RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration optimization
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 01:35:00 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <F2CBF3009FA73547804AE4C663CAB28E03770E06@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160303135833.GA9100@rkaganb.sw.ru>

> On Thu, Mar 03, 2016 at 06:44:24PM +0800, Liang Li wrote:
> > The current QEMU live migration implementation mark the all the
> > guest's RAM pages as dirtied in the ram bulk stage, all these pages
> > will be processed and that takes quit a lot of CPU cycles.
> >
> > From guest's point of view, it doesn't care about the content in free
> > pages. We can make use of this fact and skip processing the free pages
> > in the ram bulk stage, it can save a lot CPU cycles and reduce the
> > network traffic significantly while speed up the live migration
> > process obviously.
> >
> > This patch set is the QEMU side implementation.
> >
> > The virtio-balloon is extended so that QEMU can get the free pages
> > information from the guest through virtio.
> >
> > After getting the free pages information (a bitmap), QEMU can use it
> > to filter out the guest's free pages in the ram bulk stage. This make
> > the live migration process much more efficient.
> >
> > This RFC version doesn't take the post-copy and RDMA into
> > consideration, maybe both of them can benefit from this PV solution by
> > with some extra modifications.
> >
> > Performance data
> > ================
> >
> > Test environment:
> >
> > CPU: Intel (R) Xeon(R) CPU ES-2699 v3 @ 2.30GHz Host RAM: 64GB
> > Host Linux Kernel:  4.2.0           Host OS: CentOS 7.1
> > Guest Linux Kernel:  4.5.rc6        Guest OS: CentOS 6.6
> > Network:  X540-AT2 with 10 Gigabit connection Guest RAM: 8GB
> >
> > Case 1: Idle guest just boots:
> > ============================================
> >                     | original  |    pv
> > -------------------------------------------
> > total time(ms)      |    1894   |   421
> > --------------------------------------------
> > transferred ram(KB) |   398017  |  353242
> > ============================================
> >
> >
> > Case 2: The guest has ever run some memory consuming workload, the
> > workload is terminated just before live migration.
> > ============================================
> >                     | original  |    pv
> > -------------------------------------------
> > total time(ms)      |   7436    |   552
> > --------------------------------------------
> > transferred ram(KB) |  8146291  |  361375
> > ============================================
> 
> Both cases look very artificial to me.  Normally you migrate VMs which have
> started long ago and which can't have their services terminated before the
> migration, so I wouldn't expect any useful amount of free pages obtained
> this way.
> 

Yes, it's somewhat artificial, just to emphasize the effect.  And I think these two
cases are very easy to reproduce. Using the real workload and do the test
in production environment will be more convince.

We can predict that as long as the guest doesn't use out of its memory, this solution
may still take affect and shorten the total live migration time. (Off cause, we should
consider the time cost of the virtio communication.)

> OTOH I don't see why you can't just inflate the balloon before the migration,
> and really optimize the amount of transferred data this way?
> With the recently proposed VIRTIO_BALLOON_S_AVAIL you can have a fairly
> good estimate of the optimal balloon size, and with the recently merged
> balloon deflation on OOM it's a safe thing to do without exposing the guest
> workloads to OOM risks.
> 
> Roman.

Thanks for your information.  The size of the free page bitmap is not very large, for a
guest with 8GB RAM, only 256KB  extra memory is required.
Comparing to this solution, inflate the balloon is more expensive. If the balloon size
is not so optimal and guest request more memory during live migration, the guest's
performance will be impacted.

Liang

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-04  1:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-03 10:44 Liang Li
2016-03-03 10:44 ` [RFC qemu 1/4] pc: Add code to get the lowmem form PCMachineState Liang Li
2016-03-03 10:44 ` [RFC qemu 2/4] virtio-balloon: Add a new feature to balloon device Liang Li
2016-03-03 12:23   ` Cornelia Huck
2016-03-04  2:38     ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-03 12:56   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-04  2:29     ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-03 10:44 ` [RFC qemu 3/4] migration: not set migration bitmap in setup stage Liang Li
2016-03-03 10:44 ` [RFC qemu 4/4] migration: filter out guest's free pages in ram bulk stage Liang Li
2016-03-03 12:16   ` Cornelia Huck
2016-03-04  2:32     ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-03 12:45   ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2016-03-04  2:43     ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-03 13:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC qemu 0/4] A PV solution for live migration optimization Roman Kagan
2016-03-04  1:35   ` Li, Liang Z [this message]
2016-03-03 17:46 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-04  1:52   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-04  8:14     ` [Qemu-devel] " Roman Kagan
2016-03-04  9:08       ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-04 10:23         ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-04 14:26           ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-04 14:45             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-04 15:49               ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-05 19:55                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-07  6:49                   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-07 11:40                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-07 15:06                       ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-09 14:28                       ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-09 15:27                         ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-09 15:30                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-10  1:41                             ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-10 12:29                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-09 15:41                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-09 17:04                           ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-09 17:39                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-10 10:21                               ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-09 19:38                             ` Rik van Riel
2016-03-10  9:30                               ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-04 16:24             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-04 18:51               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-07  5:34                 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-09 13:22                 ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-09 14:19                   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-09  6:18               ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-04  7:55   ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-04  8:23     ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-04  8:35       ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-04  9:08         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-04  9:12           ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-04  9:47             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-04 10:11               ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-04 10:36                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-04 15:13                   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-08 14:03                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-08 14:17                       ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-04  9:35           ` Roman Kagan
2016-03-08 11:13 ` Amit Shah
2016-03-08 13:11   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-10  7:44   ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-10  7:57     ` Amit Shah
2016-03-10  8:36       ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-10 11:18         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-11  2:38           ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-14 17:03             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-15  3:31               ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-15 10:29               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-03-15 11:11                 ` Li, Liang Z
2016-03-15 19:55                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-03-16  1:20                     ` Li, Liang Z

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