From: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
To: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
Cc: Gavin Guo <gavinguo@igalia.com>,
david@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, riel@surriel.com,
Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, vbabka@suse.cz, harry.yoo@oracle.com,
jannh@google.com, baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com,
linux-mm@kvack.org, stable@vger.kernel.org,
Gavin Shan <gshan@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/huge_memory: fix early failure try_to_migrate() when split huge pmd for shared thp
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2026 19:07:12 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <EF19148C-5365-4D00-AF21-B0D71E799740@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260203000035.opgq74myrja54zir@master>
On 2 Feb 2026, at 19:00, Wei Yang wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 01, 2026 at 09:20:35AM -0500, Zi Yan wrote:
>> On 1 Feb 2026, at 8:04, Gavin Guo wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/1/26 11:39, Zi Yan wrote:
>>>> On 31 Jan 2026, at 21:09, Wei Yang wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2026 at 09:44:10PM -0500, Zi Yan wrote:
>>>>>> On 30 Jan 2026, at 18:00, Wei Yang wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Commit 60fbb14396d5 ("mm/huge_memory: adjust try_to_migrate_one() and
>>>>>>> split_huge_pmd_locked()") return false unconditionally after
>>>>>>> split_huge_pmd_locked() which may fail early during try_to_migrate() for
>>>>>>> shared thp. This will lead to unexpected folio split failure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One way to reproduce:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Create an anonymous thp range and fork 512 children, so we have a
>>>>>>> thp shared mapped in 513 processes. Then trigger folio split with
>>>>>>> /sys/kernel/debug/split_huge_pages debugfs to split the thp folio to
>>>>>>> order 0.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Without the above commit, we can successfully split to order 0.
>>>>>>> With the above commit, the folio is still a large folio.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The reason is the above commit return false after split pmd
>>>>>>> unconditionally in the first process and break try_to_migrate().
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The reasoning looks good to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The tricky thing in above reproduce method is current debugfs interface
>>>>>>> leverage function split_huge_pages_pid(), which will iterate the whole
>>>>>>> pmd range and do folio split on each base page address. This means it
>>>>>>> will try 512 times, and each time split one pmd from pmd mapped to pte
>>>>>>> mapped thp. If there are less than 512 shared mapped process,
>>>>>>> the folio is still split successfully at last. But in real world, we
>>>>>>> usually try it for once.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This patch fixes this by removing the unconditional false return after
>>>>>>> split_huge_pmd_locked(). Later, we may introduce a true fail early if
>>>>>>> split_huge_pmd_locked() does fail.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Fixes: 60fbb14396d5 ("mm/huge_memory: adjust try_to_migrate_one() and split_huge_pmd_locked()")
>>>>>>> Cc: Gavin Guo <gavinguo@igalia.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: "David Hildenbrand (Red Hat)" <david@kernel.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: <stable@vger.kernel.org>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> mm/rmap.c | 1 -
>>>>>>> 1 file changed, 1 deletion(-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> diff --git a/mm/rmap.c b/mm/rmap.c
>>>>>>> index 618df3385c8b..eed971568d65 100644
>>>>>>> --- a/mm/rmap.c
>>>>>>> +++ b/mm/rmap.c
>>>>>>> @@ -2448,7 +2448,6 @@ static bool try_to_migrate_one(struct folio *folio, struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>>>>>>> if (flags & TTU_SPLIT_HUGE_PMD) {
>>>>>>> split_huge_pmd_locked(vma, pvmw.address,
>>>>>>> pvmw.pmd, true);
>>>>>>> - ret = false;
>>>>>>> page_vma_mapped_walk_done(&pvmw);
>>>>>>> break;
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How about the patch below? It matches the pattern of set_pmd_migration_entry() below.
>>>>>> Basically, continue if the operation is successful, break otherwise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/mm/rmap.c b/mm/rmap.c
>>>>>> index 618df3385c8b..83cc9d98533e 100644
>>>>>> --- a/mm/rmap.c
>>>>>> +++ b/mm/rmap.c
>>>>>> @@ -2448,9 +2448,7 @@ static bool try_to_migrate_one(struct folio *folio, struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>>>>>> if (flags & TTU_SPLIT_HUGE_PMD) {
>>>>>> split_huge_pmd_locked(vma, pvmw.address,
>>>>>> pvmw.pmd, true);
>>>>>> - ret = false;
>>>>>> - page_vma_mapped_walk_done(&pvmw);
>>>>>> - break;
>>>>>> + continue;
>>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> Per my understanding if @freeze is trur, split_huge_pmd_locked() may "fail" as
>>>>> the comment says:
>>>>>
>>>>> * Without "freeze", we'll simply split the PMD, propagating the
>>>>> * PageAnonExclusive() flag for each PTE by setting it for
>>>>> * each subpage -- no need to (temporarily) clear.
>>>>> *
>>>>> * With "freeze" we want to replace mapped pages by
>>>>> * migration entries right away. This is only possible if we
>>>>> * managed to clear PageAnonExclusive() -- see
>>>>> * set_pmd_migration_entry().
>>>>> *
>>>>> * In case we cannot clear PageAnonExclusive(), split the PMD
>>>>> * only and let try_to_migrate_one() fail later.
>>>>>
>>>>> While currently we don't return the status of split_huge_pmd_locked() to
>>>>> indicate whether it does replaced PMD with migration entries successfully. So
>>>>> we are not sure this operation succeed.
>>>>
>>>> This is the right reasoning. This means to properly handle it, split_huge_pmd_locked()
>>>> needs to return whether it inserts migration entries or not when freeze is true.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Another difference from set_pmd_migration_entry() is split_huge_pmd_locked()
>>>>> would change the page table from PMD mapped to PTE mapped.
>>>>> page_vma_mapped_walk() can handle it now for (pvmw->pmd && !pvmw->pte), but I
>>>>> am not sure this is what we expected. For example, in try_to_unmap_one(), we
>>>>> use page_vma_mapped_walk_restart() after pmd splitted.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I prefer just remove the "ret = false" for a fix. Not sure this is
>>>>> reasonable to you.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am thinking two things after this fix:
>>>>>
>>>>> * add one similar test in selftests
>>>>> * let split_huge_pmd_locked() return value to indicate freeze is degrade to
>>>>> !freeze, and fail early on try_to_migrate() like the thp migration branch
>>>>>
>>>>> Look forward your opinion on whether it worth to do it.
>>>>
>>>> This is not the right fix, neither was mine above. Because before commit 60fbb14396d5,
>>>> the code handles PAE properly. If PAE is cleared, PMD is split into PTEs and each
>>>> PTE becomes a migration entry, page_vma_mapped_walk(&pvmw) returns false,
>>>> and try_to_migrate_one() returns true. If PAE is not cleared, PMD is split into PTEs
>>>> and each PTE is not a migration entry, inside while (page_vma_mapped_walk(&pvmw)),
>>>> PAE will be attempted to get cleared again and it will fail again, leading to
>>>> try_to_migrate_one() returns false. After commit 60fbb14396d5, no matter PAE is
>>>> cleared or not, try_to_migrate_one() always returns false. It causes folio split
>>>> failures for shared PMD THPs.
>>>>
>>>> Now with your fix (and mine above), no matter PAE is cleared or not, try_to_migrate_one()
>>>> always returns true. It just flips the code to a different issue. So the proper fix
>>>> is to let split_huge_pmd_locked() returns whether it inserts migration entries or not
>>>> and do the same pattern as THP migration code path.
>>>
>>> How about aligning with the try_to_unmap_one()? The behavior would be the same before applying the commit 60fbb14396d5:
>>>
>>> diff --git a/mm/rmap.c b/mm/rmap.c
>>> index 7b9879ef442d..0c96f0883013 100644
>>> --- a/mm/rmap.c
>>> +++ b/mm/rmap.c
>>> @@ -2333,9 +2333,9 @@ static bool try_to_migrate_one(struct folio *folio, struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>>> if (flags & TTU_SPLIT_HUGE_PMD) {
>>> split_huge_pmd_locked(vma, pvmw.address,
>>> pvmw.pmd, true);
>>> - ret = false;
>>> - page_vma_mapped_walk_done(&pvmw);
>>> - break;
>>> + flags &= ~TTU_SPLIT_HUGE_PMD;
>>> + page_vma_mapped_walk_restart(&pvmw);
>>> + continue;
>>> }
>>> #ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_ENABLE_THP_MIGRATION
>>> pmdval = pmdp_get(pvmw.pmd);
>>
>> Yes, it works and definitely needs a comment like "After split_huge_pmd_locked(), restart
>> the walk to detect PageAnonExclusive handling failure in __split_huge_pmd_locked()".
>> The change is good for backporting, but an additional patch to fix it properly by adding
>> a return value to split_huge_pmd_locked() is also necessary.
>>
>
> If my understanding is correct, this approach is good for backporting.
>
> And yes, we could further improve it by return a value to indicate whether
> split_huge_pmd_locked() do split to migration entry.
>
> Thanks both for your thoughtful inputs.
Are you going to send two patches in a series, one is the above fix with a comment
and the other changes split_huge_pmd_locked() to return a value?
Best Regards,
Yan, Zi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-03 0:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-30 23:00 Wei Yang
2026-01-31 2:44 ` Zi Yan
2026-02-01 2:09 ` Wei Yang
2026-02-01 3:39 ` Zi Yan
2026-02-01 13:04 ` Gavin Guo
2026-02-01 14:20 ` Zi Yan
2026-02-03 0:00 ` Wei Yang
2026-02-03 0:07 ` Zi Yan [this message]
2026-02-03 13:04 ` Wei Yang
2026-02-03 13:07 ` Zi Yan
2026-02-03 13:20 ` Lance Yang
2026-02-02 23:57 ` Wei Yang
2026-02-03 0:05 ` Zi Yan
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