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From: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>,
	Richard Chang <richardycc@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/4] Make MIGRATE_ISOLATE a standalone bit
Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 09:18:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <EDDFDB5C-2C2E-49E8-95CA-A1663C33EA7A@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43ab8a08-b577-4e6d-8920-1761ffbc01fc@redhat.com>

On 20 May 2025, at 4:58, David Hildenbrand wrote:

> On 19.05.25 16:35, Zi Yan wrote:
>> On 19 May 2025, at 10:15, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>
>>> On 18.05.25 02:20, Zi Yan wrote:
>>>> On 17 May 2025, at 16:26, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/9/25 22:01, Zi Yan wrote:
>>>>>> Hi David and Oscar,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you take a look at Patch 2, which changes how online_pages() set
>>>>>> online pageblock migratetypes? It used to first set all pageblocks to
>>>>>> MIGRATE_ISOLATE, then let undo_isolate_page_range() move the pageblocks
>>>>>> to MIGRATE_MOVABLE. After MIGRATE_ISOLATE becomes a standalone bit, all
>>>>>> online pageblocks need to have a migratetype other than MIGRATE_ISOLATE.
>>>>>> Let me know if there is any issue with my changes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Johannes,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Patch 2 now have set_pageblock_migratetype() not accepting
>>>>>> MIGRATE_ISOLATE. I think it makes code better. Thank you for the great
>>>>>> feedback.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This patchset moves MIGRATE_ISOLATE to a standalone bit to avoid
>>>>>> being overwritten during pageblock isolation process. Currently,
>>>>>> MIGRATE_ISOLATE is part of enum migratetype (in include/linux/mmzone.h),
>>>>>> thus, setting a pageblock to MIGRATE_ISOLATE overwrites its original
>>>>>> migratetype. This causes pageblock migratetype loss during
>>>>>> alloc_contig_range() and memory offline, especially when the process
>>>>>> fails due to a failed pageblock isolation and the code tries to undo the
>>>>>> finished pageblock isolations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems mostly fine to me, just sent suggestion for 4/4.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>> I was kinda hoping that MIGRATE_ISOLATE could stop being a migratetype. But
>>>>> I also see that it's useful for it to be because then it means it has the
>>>>> freelists in the buddy allocator, can work via __move_freepages_block() etc.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I wanted to remove MIGRATE_ISOLATE from migratetype too, but there
>>>> is a MIGRATE_ISOLATE freelist and /proc/pagetypeinfo also shows isolated
>>>> free pages.
>>>
>>> The latter, we can likely fake.
>>>
>>> Is there a reasonable way to remove MIGRATE_ISOLATE completely?
>>>
>>> Of course, we could simply duplicate the page lists (one set for isolated, one set for !isolated), or keep it as is and simply have a
>>
>> That could work. It will change vmcore layout and I wonder if that is a concern
>> or not.
>
> Not really. makedumpfile will have to implement support for the new layout as it adds support for the new kernel version.

Got it.

>
>>
>>> separate one that we separate out. So, we could have a migratetype+isolated pair instead.
>>
>> What do you mean by a migratetype+isolate pair?
>
> If MIGRATE_ISOLATE no longer exists, relevant code would have to pass migratetype+isolated (essentially, what you did in init_pageblock_migratetype ).
>
>
> E.g., we could pass around a "pageblock_info" (or however we call it, using a different type than a bare migratetype) from which we can easily extract the migratetype and the isolated state.
>
>
> E.g., init_pageblock_migratetype() could then become
>
> struct pageblock_info pb_info = {
> 	.migratetype = MIGRATE_MOVABLE,
> 	.isolated = true,
> }
> init_pageblock_info(page, pb_info);
>
> So, we'd decouple the migratetype we pass around from the "isolated" state. Whoever needs the "isolated" state in addition to the migratetype should use get_pageblock_info().
>
> When adding to lists, we can decide what to do based on that information.

This looks good to me. I can send a follow-up patchset to get rid of
MIGRATE_ISOLATE along with more cleanups like changing "int migratetype" to
"enum migratetype migratetype" in mm/page_alloc.c.

>
>>
>>>
>>> Just a thought, did not look into all the ugly details.
>>
>> Another thought is that maybe caller should keep the isolated free pages instead
>> to make it actually isolated.
>
> You mean, not adding them to a list at all in the buddy? I think the problem is that
Yes.
> if a page gets freed while the pageblock is isolated, it cannot get added to the list of an owner easily.

Right. In theory, it is possible, since when a MIGRATED_ISOLATE page is freed,
__free_one_page() can find its buddy and add the freed page to its buddy's
buddy_list without performing a merge like current code. But it needs a new
code path in __add_to_free_list(), since it is not added to the head nor the
tail of a free list.

--
Best Regards,
Yan, Zi


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-20 13:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-09 20:01 Zi Yan
2025-05-09 20:01 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] mm/page_isolation: make page isolation " Zi Yan
2025-05-13 11:32   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-05-13 14:53     ` Zi Yan
2025-05-19  8:08   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-19 15:08     ` Zi Yan
2025-05-19 16:42       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-19 17:15         ` Zi Yan
2025-05-21 11:16         ` Zi Yan
2025-05-21 11:57           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-21 12:00             ` Zi Yan
2025-05-21 12:11               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-21 12:18                 ` Zi Yan
2025-05-09 20:01 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] mm/page_isolation: remove migratetype from move_freepages_block_isolate() Zi Yan
2025-05-12  6:25   ` kernel test robot
2025-05-12 16:10   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-12 16:13     ` Zi Yan
2025-05-12 16:19       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-05-12 16:28         ` Zi Yan
2025-05-12 22:00     ` Andrew Morton
2025-05-12 23:20     ` Zi Yan
2025-05-19  8:21   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-19 23:06     ` Zi Yan
2025-05-20  8:58       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-09 20:01 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] mm/page_isolation: remove migratetype from undo_isolate_page_range() Zi Yan
2025-05-09 20:01 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] mm/page_isolation: remove migratetype parameter from more functions Zi Yan
2025-05-17 20:21   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-18  0:07     ` Zi Yan
2025-05-18 16:32   ` Johannes Weiner
2025-05-18 17:24     ` Zi Yan
2025-05-17 20:26 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] Make MIGRATE_ISOLATE a standalone bit Vlastimil Babka
2025-05-18  0:20   ` Zi Yan
2025-05-19 14:15     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-19 14:35       ` Zi Yan
2025-05-20  8:58         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-20 13:18           ` Zi Yan [this message]
2025-05-20 13:20             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-20 13:31               ` Zi Yan
2025-05-20 13:33                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-20 14:07                   ` Zi Yan
2025-05-19  7:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-19 14:01   ` Zi Yan

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