From: Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>
To: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 bpf-next 0/5] bpf_prog_pack followup
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 05:49:32 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E23B6EB1-AFFA-4B65-963E-B44BA0F2142D@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Ysz2LX3q2OsaO4gM@bombadil.infradead.org>
> On Jul 11, 2022, at 9:18 PM, Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jul 09, 2022 at 01:14:23AM +0000, Song Liu wrote:
>>> On Jul 8, 2022, at 3:24 PM, Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 1) Rename module_alloc_huge as module_alloc_text_huge();
>>>
>>> module_alloc_text_huge() is too long, but I've suggested names before
>>> which are short and generic, and also suggested that if modules are
>>> not the only users this needs to go outside of modules and so
>>> vmalloc_text_huge() or whatever.
>>>
>>> To do this right it begs the question why we don't do that for the
>>> existing module_alloc(), as the users of this code is well outside of
>>> modules now. Last time a similar generic name was used all the special
>>> arch stuff was left to be done by the module code still, but still
>>> non-modules were still using that allocator. From my perspective the
>>> right thing to do is to deal with all the arch stuff as well in the
>>> generic handler, and have the module code *and* the other users which
>>> use module_alloc() to use that new caller as well.
>>
>> The key difference between module_alloc() and the new API is that the
>> API will return RO+X memory, and the user need text-poke like API to
>> modify this buffer. Archs that do not support text-poke will not be
>> able to use the new API. Does this sound like a reasonable design?
[...]
> I believe you are mentioning requiring text_poke() because the way
> eBPF code uses the module_alloc() is different. Correct me if I'm
> wrong, but from what I gather is you use the text_poke_copy() as the data
> is already RO+X, contrary module_alloc() use cases. You do this since your
> bpf_prog_pack_alloc() calls set_memory_ro() and set_memory_x() after
> module_alloc() and before you can use this memory. This is a different type
> of allocator. And, again please correct me if I'm wrong but now you want to
> share *one* 2 MiB huge-page for multiple BPF programs to help with the
> impact of TLB misses.
Yes, sharing 1x 2MiB huge page is the main reason to require text_poke.
OTOH, 2MiB huge pages without sharing is not really useful. Both kprobe
and ftrace only uses a fraction of a 4kB page. Most BPF programs and
modules cannot use 2MiB either. Therefore, vmalloc_rw_exec() doesn't add
much value on top of current module_alloc().
> A vmalloc_ro_exec() by definition would imply a text_poke().
>
> Can kprobes, ftrace and modules use it too? It would be nice
> so to not have to deal with the loose semantics on the user to
> have to use set_vm_flush_reset_perms() on ro+x later, but
> I think this can be addressed separately on a case by case basis.
I am pretty confident that kprobe and ftrace can share huge pages with
BPF programs. I haven't looked into all the details with modules, but
given CONFIG_ARCH_WANTS_MODULES_DATA_IN_VMALLOC, I think it is also
possible.
Once this is done, a regular system (without huge BPF program or huge
modules) will just use 1x 2MB page for text from module, ftrace, kprobe,
and bpf programs.
>
> But a vmalloc_ro_exec() with a respective free can remove the
> requirement to do set_vm_flush_reset_perms().
Removing the requirement to set_vm_flush_reset_perms() is the other
reason to go directly to vmalloc_ro_exec().
My current version looks like this:
void *vmalloc_exec(unsigned long size);
void vfree_exec(void *ptr, unsigned int size);
ro is eliminated as there is no rw version of the API.
The ugly part is @size for vfree_exec(). We need it to share huge
pages.
Under the hood, it looks similar to current bpf_prog_pack_alloc
and bpf_prog_pack_free.
Thanks,
Song
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-07-12 5:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-07-07 22:35 Song Liu
2022-07-07 22:35 ` [PATCH v6 bpf-next 1/5] module: introduce module_alloc_huge Song Liu
2022-07-07 22:35 ` [PATCH v6 bpf-next 2/5] bpf: use module_alloc_huge for bpf_prog_pack Song Liu
2022-07-07 22:35 ` [PATCH v6 bpf-next 3/5] vmalloc: WARN for set_vm_flush_reset_perms() on huge pages Song Liu
2022-07-07 22:35 ` [PATCH v6 bpf-next 4/5] vmalloc: introduce huge_vmalloc_supported Song Liu
2022-07-07 22:35 ` [PATCH v6 bpf-next 5/5] bpf: simplify select_bpf_prog_pack_size Song Liu
2022-07-07 22:59 ` [PATCH v6 bpf-next 0/5] bpf_prog_pack followup Luis Chamberlain
2022-07-07 23:52 ` Song Liu
2022-07-08 0:53 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-07-08 1:36 ` Song Liu
2022-07-08 15:58 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-07-08 19:58 ` Song Liu
2022-07-08 22:24 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-07-09 1:14 ` Song Liu
2022-07-12 4:18 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-07-12 4:24 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-07-12 5:49 ` Song Liu [this message]
2022-07-12 19:04 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-07-12 23:12 ` Song Liu
2022-07-12 23:42 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-07-13 1:00 ` Song Liu
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