From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: fengguang.wu@intel.com, hch@infradead.org,
richard@rsk.demon.co.uk, david@fromorbit.com, jack@suse.cz,
a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
miklos@szeredi.hu
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] writeback: take account of NR_WRITEBACK_TEMP in balance_dirty_pages()
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:58:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1OYbKB-0008UF-2J@pomaz-ex.szeredi.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100712145206.9808b411.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (message from Andrew Morton on Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:52:06 -0700)
On Mon, 12 Jul 2010, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 10:06:57 +0800
> Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Richard Kennedy <richard@rsk.demon.co.uk>
> > Signed-off-by: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
> > ---
> > mm/page-writeback.c | 7 ++++---
> > 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> >
> > --- linux-next.orig/mm/page-writeback.c 2010-07-11 08:41:37.000000000 +0800
> > +++ linux-next/mm/page-writeback.c 2010-07-11 08:42:14.000000000 +0800
> > @@ -503,11 +503,12 @@ static void balance_dirty_pages(struct a
> > };
> >
> > get_dirty_limits(&background_thresh, &dirty_thresh,
> > - &bdi_thresh, bdi);
> > + &bdi_thresh, bdi);
> >
> > nr_reclaimable = global_page_state(NR_FILE_DIRTY) +
> > - global_page_state(NR_UNSTABLE_NFS);
> > - nr_writeback = global_page_state(NR_WRITEBACK);
> > + global_page_state(NR_UNSTABLE_NFS);
> > + nr_writeback = global_page_state(NR_WRITEBACK) +
> > + global_page_state(NR_WRITEBACK_TEMP);
> >
> > bdi_nr_reclaimable = bdi_stat(bdi, BDI_RECLAIMABLE);
> > bdi_nr_writeback = bdi_stat(bdi, BDI_WRITEBACK);
> >
>
> hm, OK.
Hm, hm. I'm not sure this is right. The VM has absolutely no control
over NR_WRITEBACK_TEMP pages, they may clear quickly or may not make
any progress. So it's usually wrong to make a decision based on
NR_WRITEBACK_TEMP for an unrelated device.
Using it in throttle_vm_writeout() would actually be deadlocky, since
the userspace filesystem will probably depend on memory allocations to
complete the writeout.
The only place where we should be taking NR_WRITEBACK_TEMP into
account is calculating the remaining memory that can be devided
between dirtyers, and that's (clip_bdi_dirty_limit) where it is
already used.
> I wonder whether we could/should have unified NR_WRITEBACK_TEMP and
> NR_UNSTABLE_NFS. Their "meanings" aren't quite the same, but perhaps
> some "treat page as dirty because the fs is futzing with it" thing.
AFAICS NR_UNSTABLE_NFS is something akin to NR_DIRTY, only on the
server side. So nfs can very much do something about making
NR_UNSTABLE_NFS go away, while there's nothing that can be done about
NR_WRITEBACK_TEMP.
Thanks,
Miklos
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-13 8:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-11 2:06 [PATCH 0/6] writeback cleanups and trivial fixes Wu Fengguang
2010-07-11 2:06 ` [PATCH 1/6] writeback: take account of NR_WRITEBACK_TEMP in balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-07-12 21:52 ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-13 8:58 ` Miklos Szeredi [this message]
2010-07-15 14:50 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-11 2:06 ` [PATCH 2/6] writeback: reduce calls to global_page_state " Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 15:19 ` Jan Kara
2010-07-27 3:59 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-27 9:12 ` Jan Kara
2010-07-28 2:04 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-03 14:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-11 2:06 ` [PATCH 3/6] writeback: avoid unnecessary calculation of bdi dirty thresholds Wu Fengguang
2010-07-12 21:56 ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-15 14:55 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-19 21:35 ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-20 3:34 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-20 4:14 ` Andrew Morton
2010-08-03 15:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-03 15:10 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-04 16:41 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-04 17:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-07-11 2:07 ` [PATCH 4/6] writeback: dont redirty tail an inode with dirty pages Wu Fengguang
2010-07-12 2:01 ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-12 15:31 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-12 22:13 ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-15 15:35 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-11 2:07 ` [PATCH 5/6] writeback: fix queue_io() ordering Wu Fengguang
2010-07-12 22:15 ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-11 2:07 ` [PATCH 6/6] writeback: merge for_kupdate and !for_kupdate cases Wu Fengguang
2010-07-12 2:08 ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-12 15:52 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-12 22:06 ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-12 22:22 ` Andrew Morton
2010-08-05 16:01 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-11 2:44 ` [PATCH 0/6] writeback cleanups and trivial fixes Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-11 2:50 ` Wu Fengguang
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