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From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
To: steve@chygwyn.com
Cc: miklos@szeredi.hu, npiggin@suse.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] fs: improved handling of page and buffer IO errors
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:13:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1KsJr2-0006jT-1R@pomaz-ex.szeredi.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081021150948.GB28279@fogou.chygwyn.com> (steve@chygwyn.com)

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, steve@chygwyn.co wrote:
> Well I'm not sure why we'd need to distinguish between "page has not
> been read" and "page has been read but no longer valid". I guess I
> don't understand why those two cases are not the same from the vfs
> and filesystem points of view.

In the first case the page contains random bytes, in the second case
it contains actual file data, which has become stale, but at some
point in time it _was_ the contents of the file.

This is a very important distinction for splice(2) for example.
Splice does not actually copy data into the pipe buffer, only
references the pages.  And it can reference pages which are not yet
up-to-date.  So when the buffers are consumed from the pipe, the
splice code needs to know if the page contains random junk (never
brought up-to-date) or data that is, or once was, valid.

> I'm sure it should be documented :-) it certainly seems confusing and if we
> want to keep this scheme, can we change PG_uptodate to PG_wasread or
> PG_usedonce or something like that which more clearly reflects its
> purpose in that case,

I'm not going to argue about the name :)

Thanks,
Miklos

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-21 16:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-21 11:21 Nick Piggin
2008-10-21 12:52 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 12:59   ` steve
2008-10-21 13:14     ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 13:38       ` steve
2008-10-21 14:32         ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 15:09           ` steve
2008-10-21 16:13             ` Miklos Szeredi [this message]
2008-10-22 12:51               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-22 14:08                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 14:35         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-10-21 14:59           ` steve
2008-10-21 16:20             ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 16:25               ` steve
2008-10-21 16:28               ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 16:29                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 12:48                   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-10-22 13:45                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 14:02                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-22 14:35                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 14:45                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-23 13:48                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-10-22 22:23     ` Mark Fasheh
2008-10-23  9:59       ` steve
2008-10-23 10:21         ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-23 10:52           ` steve
2008-10-23 11:07             ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 13:16   ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 20:09     ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-10-21 16:16 ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-21 16:30   ` steve
2008-10-22 10:31   ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 18:46     ` Brad Boyer
2008-10-22 20:19       ` Andi Kleen
2008-10-23  7:08       ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-22 23:07     ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-23  7:07       ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-23  9:44         ` steve
2008-10-23 11:15           ` Nick Piggin
2008-10-23 22:48             ` Dave Chinner
2008-10-24  1:05               ` Nick Piggin

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