From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
To: johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru
Cc: miklos@szeredi.hu, jens.axboe@oracle.com,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [rfc patch 3/4] splice: remove confirm from pipe_buf_operations
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:02:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1KB7E3-0001Lf-K4@pomaz-ex.szeredi.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080624114654.GA27123@2ka.mipt.ru> (message from Evgeniy Polyakov on Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:46:54 +0400)
> > > basically like PageWriteback(), but for read-in.
> >
> > OK it could be done, possibly at great pain. But why is it important?
>
> Maybe not that great if mark all readahead pages as, well, readahead,
> and do the same for readpage (essnetially it is the same).
It isn't that easy. Readahead (->readpages()) is best effort, and is
allowed to not bring the page uptodate, since it will be retried with
->readpage(). I don't know whether any filesystems actually do that,
but it's allowed nonetheless.
> > What's the use case where it matters that splice-in should not block
> > on the read?
>
> To be able to transfer what was already read?
That needs the consumer to be non-blocking...
Umm, one more reason why the ->confirm() stuff is currently busted:
pipe_read() will block on such a buffer even if pipe file is marked
O_NONBLOCK. Fixing that would take a hell of a lot of added
complexity in pipe_poll(), etc...
Miklos
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-24 12:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-21 15:46 [rfc patch 0/4] splice: cleanups and fixes Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-21 15:46 ` [rfc patch 1/4] splice: fix comment Miklos Szeredi, Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-21 15:46 ` [rfc patch 2/4] splice: remove steal from pipe_buf_operations Miklos Szeredi, Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-24 8:01 ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-24 8:50 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-24 12:21 ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-21 15:46 ` [rfc patch 3/4] splice: remove confirm " Miklos Szeredi, Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-24 8:04 ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-24 8:54 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-24 11:19 ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-24 11:36 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-24 11:46 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-06-24 12:02 ` Miklos Szeredi [this message]
2008-06-24 12:15 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-06-24 12:16 ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-24 12:22 ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-24 13:00 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-24 17:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-24 18:24 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-24 18:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-24 19:05 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-24 19:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-24 19:24 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-24 19:26 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-24 19:32 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-24 19:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-24 20:06 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-24 19:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-21 15:46 ` [rfc patch 4/4] splice: use do_generic_file_read() Miklos Szeredi, Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-24 8:05 ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-24 11:11 ` Miklos Szeredi
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