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From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
To: johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru
Cc: miklos@szeredi.hu, jens.axboe@oracle.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [rfc patch 3/4] splice: remove confirm from pipe_buf_operations
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:02:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1KB7E3-0001Lf-K4@pomaz-ex.szeredi.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080624114654.GA27123@2ka.mipt.ru> (message from Evgeniy Polyakov on Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:46:54 +0400)

> > > basically like PageWriteback(), but for read-in.
> > 
> > OK it could be done, possibly at great pain.  But why is it important?
> 
> Maybe not that great if mark all readahead pages as, well, readahead,
> and do the same for readpage (essnetially it is the same).

It isn't that easy.  Readahead (->readpages()) is best effort, and is
allowed to not bring the page uptodate, since it will be retried with
->readpage().  I don't know whether any filesystems actually do that,
but it's allowed nonetheless.

> > What's the use case where it matters that splice-in should not block
> > on the read?
> 
> To be able to transfer what was already read?

That needs the consumer to be non-blocking...

Umm, one more reason why the ->confirm() stuff is currently busted:
pipe_read() will block on such a buffer even if pipe file is marked
O_NONBLOCK.  Fixing that would take a hell of a lot of added
complexity in pipe_poll(), etc...

Miklos

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-24 12:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-21 15:46 [rfc patch 0/4] splice: cleanups and fixes Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-21 15:46 ` [rfc patch 1/4] splice: fix comment Miklos Szeredi, Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-21 15:46 ` [rfc patch 2/4] splice: remove steal from pipe_buf_operations Miklos Szeredi, Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-24  8:01   ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-24  8:50     ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-24 12:21       ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-21 15:46 ` [rfc patch 3/4] splice: remove confirm " Miklos Szeredi, Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-24  8:04   ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-24  8:54     ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-24 11:19       ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-24 11:36         ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-24 11:46           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-06-24 12:02             ` Miklos Szeredi [this message]
2008-06-24 12:15               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-06-24 12:16           ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-24 12:22             ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-24 13:00             ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-24 17:30           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-24 18:24             ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-24 18:31               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-24 19:05                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-24 19:17                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-24 19:24                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-24 19:26                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-24 19:32                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-24 19:47                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-24 20:06                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-24 19:45                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-06-21 15:46 ` [rfc patch 4/4] splice: use do_generic_file_read() Miklos Szeredi, Miklos Szeredi
2008-06-24  8:05   ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-24 11:11     ` Miklos Szeredi

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