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From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
To: viro@ftp.linux.org.uk
Cc: miklos@szeredi.hu, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] type safe allocator
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:05:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1IGaMv-0001ZT-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070802120515.GL21089@ftp.linux.org.uk> (message from Al Viro on Thu, 2 Aug 2007 13:05:15 +0100)

> Folks, this is serious.  _We_ might be used to having in effect a C dialect
> with extensions implemented by preprocessor.  That's fine, but for a fresh
> reader it becomes a problem; sure, they can dig in include/linux/*.h and
> to some extent they clearly have to.  However, it doesn't come for free
> and we really ought to keep that in mind - amount of local idioms (and
> anything that doesn't look like a normal function call with normal arguments
> _does_ become an idiom to be learnt before one can fluently RTFS) is a thing
> to watch out for.

That's why the g_new() form that glib uses makes some sense.  It
borrows an idiom from C++, and although we all know C++ is a horrid
language, to some extent lots of people are familiar with it.

> IOW, whenever we add to that pile we ought to look hard at whether it's worth
> the trouble.

Well, this is not some earth-shattering stuff, but I think it would be
good to have.  I got used to it in glib, and I miss it in linux.

I understand the knee-jerk reaction of most people who are unfamiliar
with it, and I can do nothing about that.  If there's no positive
feedback I'll just give up, it's not that I can't live with the
current situation.


Miklos

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-02 13:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-01  9:06 Miklos Szeredi
2007-08-01  9:29 ` Adrian Bunk
2007-08-01  9:41   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-08-01 10:44 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-01  9:57   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-08-01 11:34     ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-01 10:45       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-08-01 11:44         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-01 11:56           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-08-02  3:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-02  7:27   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-08-02 12:05     ` Al Viro
2007-08-02 13:05       ` Miklos Szeredi [this message]
2007-08-02 17:23     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-02  5:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-02  7:38   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-08-02 19:16     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-08-02  7:37 ` Satyam Sharma
2007-08-02  7:40   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-08-02 11:31 ` [PATCH] " Miklos Szeredi, Miklos Szeredi
2007-08-02 12:04   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2007-08-02 12:24     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-02 13:06       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-08-02 13:35         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-02 13:49           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-08-02 13:47     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-02 14:06       ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-08-02 14:08         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-02 18:36   ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-02 18:48     ` Miklos Szeredi

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