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From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
To: a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, neilb@suse.de, dgc@sgi.com,
	tomoki.sekiyama.qu@hitachi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] mm: per device dirty threshold
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 13:12:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1HZ3Q9-00062G-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1175684461.6483.64.camel@twins> (message from Peter Zijlstra on Wed, 04 Apr 2007 13:01:01 +0200)

> > > so it could be that: scale / cycle > 1
> > > by a very small amount; however:
> > 
> > No, I'm worried about the case when scale is too small.  If the
> > per-bdi threshold becomes smaller than stat_threshold, then things
> > won't work, because dirty+writeback will never go below the threshold,
> > possibly resulting in the deadlock we are trying to avoid.
> 
> /me goes refresh the deadlock details..
> 
> A writes to B; A exceeds the dirty limit but writeout is blocked by B
> because the dirty limit is exceeded, right?
> 
> This cannot happen when we decouple the BDI dirty thresholds, even when
> a threshold is 0.
> 
> A write to B; A exceeds A's limit and writes to B, B has limit of 0, the
> 1 dirty page gets written out (we gain ratio) and life goes on.
> 
> Right?

If the limit is zero, then we need the per-bdi dirty+write to go to
zero, otherwise balance_dirty_pages() loops.  But the per-bdi
writeback counter is not necessarily updated after the writeback,
because the per-bdi per-CPU counter may not trip the update of the
per-bdi counter.

Miklos

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-04 11:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-03 14:40 [PATCH 0/6] per device dirty throttling -V2 Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-03 14:40 ` [PATCH 1/6] mm: scalable bdi statistics counters Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-04  9:20   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-04  9:25     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-03 14:40 ` [PATCH 2/6] mm: count dirty pages per BDI Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-03 14:40 ` [PATCH 3/6] mm: count writeback " Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-03 14:40 ` [PATCH 4/6] mm: count unstable " Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-03 14:40 ` [PATCH 5/6] mm: expose BDI statistics in sysfs Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-03 14:40 ` [PATCH 6/6] mm: per device dirty threshold Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-04  9:34   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-04 10:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-04 10:29       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-04 11:01         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-04 11:12           ` Miklos Szeredi [this message]
2007-04-04 12:05             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-04 12:32               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-04 12:43                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-04 20:03                   ` Peter Zijlstra

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