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From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
To: a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, neilb@suse.de, dgc@sgi.com,
	tomoki.sekiyama.qu@hitachi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] mm: per device dirty threshold
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 11:34:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1HZ1so-0005q8-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070403144224.709586192@taijtu.programming.kicks-ass.net> (message from Peter Zijlstra on Tue, 03 Apr 2007 16:40:53 +0200)

> Scale writeback cache per backing device, proportional to its writeout speed.
> 
> akpm sayeth:
> > Which problem are we trying to solve here?  afaik our two uppermost
> > problems are:
> > 
> > a) Heavy write to queue A causes light writer to queue B to blok for a long
> > time in balance_dirty_pages().  Even if the devices have the same speed.  
> 
> This one; esp when not the same speed. The - my usb stick makes my
> computer suck - problem. But even on similar speed, the separation of
> device should avoid blocking dev B when dev A is being throttled.
> 
> The writeout speed is measure dynamically, so when it doesn't have
> anything to write out for a while its writeback cache size goes to 0.
> 
> Conversely, when starting up it will in the beginning act almost
> synchronous but will quickly build up a 'fair' share of the writeback
> cache.

I'm worried about two things:

1) If the per-bdi threshold becomes smaller than the granularity of
   the per-bdi stat (due to the per-CPU counters), then things will
   break.  Shouldn't there be some sanity checking for the calculated
   threshold?

2) The loop is sleeping in congestion_wait(WRITE), which seems wrong.
   It may well be possible that none of the queues are congested, so
   it will sleep the full .1 second.  But by that time the queue may
   have become idle and is just sitting there doing nothing.  Maybe
   there should be a per-bdi waitq, that is woken up, when the per-bdi
   stats are updated.


Thanks,
Miklos

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-04  9:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-03 14:40 [PATCH 0/6] per device dirty throttling -V2 Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-03 14:40 ` [PATCH 1/6] mm: scalable bdi statistics counters Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-04  9:20   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-04  9:25     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-03 14:40 ` [PATCH 2/6] mm: count dirty pages per BDI Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-03 14:40 ` [PATCH 3/6] mm: count writeback " Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-03 14:40 ` [PATCH 4/6] mm: count unstable " Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-03 14:40 ` [PATCH 5/6] mm: expose BDI statistics in sysfs Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-03 14:40 ` [PATCH 6/6] mm: per device dirty threshold Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-04  9:34   ` Miklos Szeredi [this message]
2007-04-04 10:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-04 10:29       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-04 11:01         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-04 11:12           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-04 12:05             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-04 12:32               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-04 12:43                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-04 20:03                   ` Peter Zijlstra

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