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From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
To: akpm@linux-foundation.org
Cc: a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch resend v4] update ctime and mtime for mmaped write
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 10:03:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1HW6eb-0003WX-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070326234957.6b287dda.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (message from Andrew Morton on Mon, 26 Mar 2007 23:49:57 -0800)

> > > There is surely no need to duplicate all that.
> > 
> > Yeah, we could teach generic_writepages() to conditionally not submit
> > for io just test/clear pte dirtyness.
> > 
> > Maybe that would be somewhat cleaner, dunno.
> > 
> > Then there are the ram backed filesystems, which don't have dirty
> > accounting and radix trees, and for which this pte walking is still
> > needed to provide semantics consistent with normal filesystems.
> 
> hm.
> 
> I don't know how important all this is, really - we've had this bug for
> ever and presumably we've already trained everyone to work around it.
> 
> What usage scenarios are people actually hurting from?  Is there anything
> interesting in the mysterious Novell Bugzilla #206431?

That's just a failing LTP testcase, not quite real life ;)

But Peter Staubach says a RH custumer has files written thorugh mmap,
which are not being backed up.

> Perhaps we can get away with doing something half-assed which covers most
> requirements...

OK.  At least I can split the patch into two half asses.

The big question is tmpfs and friends.  Those won't get any timestamp
update without additional page table walking.

Miklos

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-27  8:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-25 21:10 Miklos Szeredi, Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-26 21:00 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-26 21:10   ` Matt Mackall
2007-03-26 22:25     ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-26 21:43   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-26 22:31     ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-27  6:55       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-27  7:22         ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-27  7:36           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-27  7:49             ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-27  8:03               ` Miklos Szeredi [this message]
2007-03-27  8:18                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-27  8:28                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-27  8:51                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-27  9:23                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-27 17:52                         ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-27 18:29                           ` Miklos Szeredi
     [not found] <20070327123422.d0bbc064.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2007-03-27 20:09 ` linux
2007-03-27 20:31   ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-28  1:48     ` linux
2007-03-28  7:58       ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-28  9:50         ` linux
2007-03-29  4:59           ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-27 20:47   ` Andrew Morton

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