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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	dmccr@us.ibm.com,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>,
	mingo@redhat.co, Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>,
	manfred@colorfullife.com, wli@holomorphy.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] Page table sharing
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 04:45:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E16d1E8-00010D-00@starship.berlin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0202181908210.24803-100000@home.transmeta.com>

On February 19, 2002 04:22 am, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >
> > We can, of course, introduce a "pmd-rmap" thing, with a pointer to a
> > circular list of all mm's using that pmd inside the "struct page *" of the
> > pmd. Right now the rmap patches just make the pointer point directly to
> > the one exclusive mm that holds the pmd, right?
> 
> There's another approach:
>  - get rid of "page_table_lock"
>  - replace it with a "per-pmd lock"
>  - notice that we already _have_ such a lock
> 
> The lock we have is the lock that we've always had in "struct page".

Yes, I even have an earlier version of the patch that implements a spinlock
on that bit.  It doesn't use the normal lock_page of course.

> There are some interesting advantages from this:
>  - we allow even more parallelism from threads across different CPU's.
>  - we already have the cacheline for the pmd "struct page" because we
>    needed it for the pmd count.Y
> 
> That still leaves the TLB invalidation issue, but we could handle that
> with an alternate approach: use the same "free_pte_ctx" kind of gathering
> that the zap_page_range() code uses for similar reasons (ie gather up the
> pte entries that you're going to free first, and then do a global
> invalidate later).
>
> Note that this is likely to speed things up anyway (whether the pages are
> gathered by rmap or by the current linear walk), by virtue of being able
> to do just _one_ TLB invalidate (potentially cross-CPU) rather than having
> to do it once for each page we free.
> 
> At that point you might as well make the TLB shootdown global (ie you keep
> track of a mask of CPU's whose TLB's you want to kill, and any pmd that
> has count > 1 just makes that mask be "all CPU's").
> 
> I'm a bit worried about the "lock each mm on the pmd-rmap list" approach,
> because I think we need to lock them _all_ to be safe (as opposed to
> locking them one at a time), which always implies all the nasty potential
> deadlocks you get for doing multiple locking.
> 
> The "page-lock + potentially one global TLB flush" approach looks a lot
> safer in this respect.

How do we know when to do the global tlb flush?

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Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-19  3:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0202162219230.8326-100000@home.transmeta.com>
2002-02-17 19:39 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-17 20:16   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-17 22:16   ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-18  1:35     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-18  8:09       ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-18  9:41         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-18 11:32           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-18 19:04           ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-18 23:37             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  0:56               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19  1:22                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-19  1:29                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  1:48                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19  1:53                     ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-19  2:05                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19  2:22                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  2:35                           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19  2:55                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  3:11                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  3:22                             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19  3:45                               ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2002-02-19 17:29                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19 18:11                                   ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-20 14:18                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-20 15:30                                       ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-20 14:10                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-20 14:38                                     ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-20 14:57                                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19 11:39                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19 12:22                                 ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-19 12:43                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19 10:02                             ` Roman Zippel
2002-02-22  5:29                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-22  6:32                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-22  9:21                             ` [RFC] Page table sharing, leak gone Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  1:57                     ` [RFC] Page table sharing Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  1:23                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  1:50                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  1:53                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19  2:12                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-18 23:48             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-18 23:59             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  0:03               ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-19  0:27                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  4:27                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-19 17:30                     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19 18:18 Qing Huang

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