From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
dmccr@us.ibm.com,
Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>,
Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
mingo@redhat.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>,
manfred@colorfullife.com, wli@holomorphy.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] Page table sharing
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 03:12:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E16czlc-0000yu-00@starship.berlin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0202181749110.24597-100000@home.transmeta.com>
On February 19, 2002 02:53 am, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> >
> > Somebody might read fault, changing an entry when we're in the middle of
> > copying it and might might do a duplicated read fault.
>
> You're confusing the mm->mmap_sem with the page_table_lock.
>
> The mm semaphore is really a read-write semaphore, and yes, there can be
> multiple faulters active at the same time readin gin pages.
>
> But the page_table_lock is 100% exclusive, and while you hold the
> page_table_lock there is absolutely _not_ going to be any concurrent page
> faulting.
Sure there can be, because we only hold the mm->page_table_lock for this,
somebody could be faulting through another mm sharing the page table. For
this reason I believe I have to look at the page table count, and unless
it's one, I have to do some extra exclusion.
> (NOTE! Sure, there might be another mm that has the same pmd shared, but
> that one is going to do an unshare before it actually touches anything in
> the pmd, so it's NOT going to change the values in the original pmd).
Actually, I was planning to keep the tables shared, even through swapin/
swapout. The data remains valid for all mm's, whether it's in ram or in
swap.
> So I'm personally convinced that the locking shouldn't be needed at all,
> if you just make sure that you do things in the right order (that, of
> course, might need some memory barriers, which had better be implied by
> the atomic dec-and-test anyway).
You've convinced me that it can be considerably streamlined, which is
great, but it can't all go, and even now there's some missing.
--
Daniel
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Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0202162219230.8326-100000@home.transmeta.com>
2002-02-17 19:39 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-17 20:16 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-17 22:16 ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-18 1:35 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-18 8:09 ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-18 9:41 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-18 11:32 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-18 19:04 ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-18 23:37 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19 0:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19 1:22 ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-19 1:29 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19 1:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19 1:53 ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-19 2:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19 2:22 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19 2:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19 2:55 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19 3:11 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19 3:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19 3:45 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19 17:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19 18:11 ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-20 14:18 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-20 15:30 ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-20 14:10 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-20 14:38 ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-20 14:57 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19 11:39 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19 12:22 ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-19 12:43 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19 10:02 ` Roman Zippel
2002-02-22 5:29 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-22 6:32 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-22 9:21 ` [RFC] Page table sharing, leak gone Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19 1:57 ` [RFC] Page table sharing Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19 1:23 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19 1:50 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19 1:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19 2:12 ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2002-02-18 23:48 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-18 23:59 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19 0:03 ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-19 0:27 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19 4:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-19 17:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19 18:18 Qing Huang
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