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From: Daniel Phillips <phillips@bonn-fries.net>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	dmccr@us.ibm.com,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	mingo@redhat.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>,
	manfred@colorfullife.com, wli@holomorphy.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] Page table sharing
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 03:12:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E16czlc-0000yu-00@starship.berlin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0202181749110.24597-100000@home.transmeta.com>

On February 19, 2002 02:53 am, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> >
> > Somebody might read fault, changing an entry when we're in the middle of
> > copying it and might might do a duplicated read fault.
> 
> You're confusing the mm->mmap_sem with the page_table_lock.
> 
> The mm semaphore is really a read-write semaphore, and yes, there can be
> multiple faulters active at the same time readin gin pages.
> 
> But the page_table_lock is 100% exclusive, and while you hold the
> page_table_lock there is absolutely _not_ going to be any concurrent page
> faulting.

Sure there can be, because we only hold the mm->page_table_lock for this,
somebody could be faulting through another mm sharing the page table.  For
this reason I believe I have to look at the page table count, and unless
it's one, I have to do some extra exclusion.

> (NOTE! Sure, there might be another mm that has the same pmd shared, but
> that one is going to do an unshare before it actually touches anything in
> the pmd, so it's NOT going to change the values in the original pmd).

Actually, I was planning to keep the tables shared, even through swapin/
swapout.  The data remains valid for all mm's, whether it's in ram or in
swap.

> So I'm personally convinced that the locking shouldn't be needed at all,
> if you just make sure that you do things in the right order (that, of
> course, might need some memory barriers, which had better be implied by
> the atomic dec-and-test anyway).

You've convinced me that it can be considerably streamlined, which is
great, but it can't all go, and even now there's some missing.

-- 
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-19  2:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0202162219230.8326-100000@home.transmeta.com>
2002-02-17 19:39 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-17 20:16   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-17 22:16   ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-18  1:35     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-18  8:09       ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-18  9:41         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-18 11:32           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-18 19:04           ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-18 23:37             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  0:56               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19  1:22                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-19  1:29                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  1:48                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19  1:53                     ` Rik van Riel
2002-02-19  2:05                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19  2:22                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  2:35                           ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19  2:55                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  3:11                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  3:22                             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19  3:45                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19 17:29                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19 18:11                                   ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-20 14:18                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-20 15:30                                       ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-20 14:10                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-20 14:38                                     ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-20 14:57                                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19 11:39                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19 12:22                                 ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-19 12:43                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19 10:02                             ` Roman Zippel
2002-02-22  5:29                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-22  6:32                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-22  9:21                             ` [RFC] Page table sharing, leak gone Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  1:57                     ` [RFC] Page table sharing Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  1:23                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  1:50                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  1:53                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19  2:12                     ` Daniel Phillips [this message]
2002-02-18 23:48             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-18 23:59             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  0:03               ` Hugh Dickins
2002-02-19  0:27                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-19  4:27                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-02-19 17:30                     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-19 18:18 Qing Huang

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