From: "Alexis Lothoré" <alexis.lothore@bootlin.com>
To: "Alexei Starovoitov" <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC bpf-next 1/8] kasan: expose generic kasan helpers
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2026 22:44:13 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DHT65O6DS001.14GNQMXFJZHTN@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQ+c9h_wuNwj8pjx885oNErGY7bxxCwKi+DiJ0XKSpyYfg@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue Apr 14, 2026 at 9:16 PM CEST, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2026 at 11:41 AM Alexis Lothoré
> <alexis.lothore@bootlin.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue Apr 14, 2026 at 4:36 PM CEST, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2026 at 6:13 AM Alexis Lothoré
>> > <alexis.lothore@bootlin.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Andrey, thanks for the prompt review !
[...]
>> > No. The performance penalty will be too high.
>>
>> Since we are mentioning it, I did not consider yet any performance
>> comparision/benchmarking (and I am not really familiar with usual bpf
>> performance validation practices for new bpf features). Is there any
>> existing test I should take a look at for this ? Maybe some specific
>> benches in tools/testing/selftests/bpf/bench ?
>
> So far everything in bpf/bench/ measures bpf infra like
> maps, kprobes, tracepoints, etc.
> We don't have benchmarks for bpf programs.
> So we don't know how well JITs are generating code
> and how much inlining done by the verifier, JITs actually helps.
>
> Puranjay is working on creating a SPECint like set of benchmarks.
>
> For this kasan work we should make the best decisions from
> performance point of view, like not wasting unnecessary call
> and not saving unnecessary registers. btw in the other patch
> I think you can skip saving of r10 and r11.
Noted, I'll do some checks and tests without those two.
> But we cannot quantify yet that avoiding extra call gives us N%.
>
> You can micro-benchmark, of course, but gotta be careful
> interpreting the results. It might be too easy to get into
> thinking that JIT must inline __asan_load() for the sake of performance.
Ok, interesting, thanks for those details
Alexis
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-14 20:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-13 18:28 [PATCH RFC bpf-next 0/8] bpf: add support for KASAN checks in JITed programs Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
2026-04-13 18:28 ` [PATCH RFC bpf-next 1/8] kasan: expose generic kasan helpers Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
2026-04-13 22:19 ` Andrey Konovalov
2026-04-14 13:12 ` Alexis Lothoré
2026-04-14 14:36 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-04-14 15:10 ` Andrey Konovalov
2026-04-14 15:58 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-04-14 18:41 ` Alexis Lothoré
2026-04-14 19:16 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-04-14 20:44 ` Alexis Lothoré [this message]
2026-04-13 18:28 ` [PATCH RFC bpf-next 2/8] bpf: mark instructions accessing program stack Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
2026-04-13 18:28 ` [PATCH RFC bpf-next 3/8] bpf: add BPF_JIT_KASAN for KASAN instrumentation of JITed programs Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
2026-04-13 22:20 ` Andrey Konovalov
2026-04-14 13:24 ` Alexis Lothoré
2026-04-14 14:38 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-04-13 18:28 ` [PATCH RFC bpf-next 4/8] bpf, x86: add helper to emit kasan checks in x86 " Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
2026-04-13 18:28 ` [PATCH RFC bpf-next 5/8] bpf, x86: emit KASAN checks into " Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
2026-04-13 18:28 ` [PATCH RFC bpf-next 6/8] selftests/bpf: do not run verifier JIT tests when BPF_JIT_KASAN is enabled Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
2026-04-13 18:28 ` [PATCH RFC bpf-next 7/8] bpf, x86: enable KASAN for JITed programs on x86 Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
2026-04-13 18:28 ` [PATCH RFC bpf-next 8/8] selftests/bpf: add tests to validate KASAN on JIT programs Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
2026-04-13 22:20 ` Andrey Konovalov
2026-04-14 13:43 ` Alexis Lothoré
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