From: Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>
Cc: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
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Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/21] x86/mm/pat: mirror direct map changes to ASI
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2026 09:45:22 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DFU660CYC3H5.3L7IVBXG8AIY1@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260120163728.GDaW-vSLGY1P_E0DqS@fat_crate.local>
On Tue Jan 20, 2026 at 4:37 PM UTC, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 02, 2025 at 05:08:59PM +0000, Brendan Jackman wrote:
>> OK, then it probably just sounds wrong to me because I'm steeped in the
>> current jargon. For v2 I'll try just dropping "[un]restricted".
>
> So AFAIU, we have two address spaces - the full one - which has *everything*
> mapped in and the limited one, with things removed from it. Right?
>
> So calling the unrestricted "the full address space" makes sense to me. I.e.,
> it has *everything* in it.
>
> And then there's the subset of the full address space which has holes in it.
> Looking at Merriam Webster, it suggests those antonyms to "complete":
>
> partial, incomplete, reduced, abbreviated, diminished.
>
> Yahaa, they all make sense.
>
> "partial address space" sounds good to me. "Reduced" even better. So having
> the full and the reduced address space would make the nomenclature very easy,
> IMO.
>
> Thoughts?
Full/partial sounds like good naming for the address spaces, but that
doesn't help with the issue that we have two related concepts that we
need jargon for:
1. Address spaces (current patch's terminology: restricted/unrestricted)
2. The property of some memory being mapped or unmapped in the
"restricted"/"partial"/"sensitive" address space (current patch's
terminology: sensitive/nonsensitive).
IIUC Dave's complaint wasn't that the word choices don't work for their
respective concepts. His issue was that we have separte jargon for 1 and
2 even though they are closely entangled concepts. Since I'm now
convinced that "sensitive/nonsensitive" makes sense for both, I think we
should stick to that.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-21 9:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-24 14:59 [PATCH 00/21] mm: ASI direct map management Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 01/21] x86/mm/asi: Add CONFIG_MITIGATION_ADDRESS_SPACE_ISOLATION Brendan Jackman
2025-10-24 22:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-10-24 23:32 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-25 9:57 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 02/21] x86/mm/asi: add X86_FEATURE_ASI and asi= Brendan Jackman
2025-10-25 10:06 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-10-26 22:24 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-11-10 11:26 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-10 12:15 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 03/21] x86/mm: factor out phys_pgd_init() Brendan Jackman
2025-09-27 19:29 ` kernel test robot
2025-10-01 12:26 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-25 11:48 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-10-26 22:29 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-11-10 11:38 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-10 12:36 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 04/21] x86/mm/asi: set up asi_nonsensitive_pgd Brendan Jackman
2025-10-01 20:28 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 14:05 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-02 16:14 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 17:19 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-11-12 19:39 ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-11 14:55 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-11-11 17:53 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 05/21] x86/mm/pat: mirror direct map changes to ASI Brendan Jackman
2025-09-25 13:36 ` kernel test robot
2025-10-01 20:50 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 14:31 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-02 16:40 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 17:08 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-01-20 16:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-01-21 9:45 ` Brendan Jackman [this message]
2026-01-21 11:27 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-01-21 11:49 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-01-21 12:03 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 06/21] mm/page_alloc: add __GFP_SENSITIVE and always set it Brendan Jackman
2025-10-01 21:18 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 14:34 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-01-28 15:38 ` Borislav Petkov
2026-01-28 15:57 ` Brendan Jackman
2026-01-28 16:29 ` Borislav Petkov
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 07/21] mm: introduce for_each_free_list() Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 08/21] mm: rejig pageblock mask definitions Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 09/21] mm/page_alloc: Invert is_check_pages_enabled() check Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 10/21] mm/page_alloc: remove ifdefs from pindex helpers Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 11/21] mm: introduce freetype_t Brendan Jackman
2025-09-25 13:15 ` kernel test robot
2025-10-01 21:20 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 14:39 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 12/21] mm/asi: encode sensitivity in freetypes and pageblocks Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 13/21] mm/page_alloc_test: unit test pindex helpers Brendan Jackman
2025-09-25 13:36 ` kernel test robot
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 14/21] x86/mm/pat: introduce cpa_fault option Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 15/21] mm/page_alloc: rename ALLOC_NON_BLOCK back to _HARDER Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 16/21] mm/page_alloc: introduce ALLOC_NOBLOCK Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 17/21] mm/slub: defer application of gfp_allowed_mask Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 18/21] mm/asi: support changing pageblock sensitivity Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 19/21] mm/asi: bad_page() when ASI mappings are wrong Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 20/21] x86/mm/asi: don't use global pages when ASI enabled Brendan Jackman
2025-09-24 14:59 ` [PATCH 21/21] mm: asi_test: smoke test for [non]sensitive page allocs Brendan Jackman
2025-09-25 17:51 ` [PATCH 00/21] mm: ASI direct map management Brendan Jackman
2025-09-30 19:51 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2025-10-01 7:12 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-01 19:54 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-01 20:22 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-10-01 20:30 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 11:05 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-01 20:59 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 7:34 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-02 11:23 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-10-02 17:01 ` Dave Hansen
2025-10-02 19:19 ` Brendan Jackman
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