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From: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Yang Shi <yang@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>,
	Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
	Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>, John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>,
	Liu Shixin <liushixin2@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 2/8] mm/huge_memory: add two new (not yet used) functions for folio_split()
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2025 11:21:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D45D4F01-E5A5-47E6-8724-01610CC192CC@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <176731de-6a3b-270b-6b5d-dfce124c8789@google.com>

On 5 Mar 2025, at 17:38, Hugh Dickins wrote:

> On Wed, 5 Mar 2025, Zi Yan wrote:
>> On 5 Mar 2025, at 16:03, Hugh Dickins wrote:
>>>
>>> Beyond checking that, I didn't have time yesterday to investigate
>>> further, but I'll try again today (still using last weekend's mm.git).
>>
>> I am trying to replicate your runs locally. Can you clarify your steps
>> of “kernel builds on huge tmpfs while swapping to SSD”? Do you impose
>> a memory limit so that anonymous memory is swapped to SSD or make tmpfs
>> swap to SSD?
>
> Yeah, my heart sank a bit when I saw Andrew (with good intention) asking
> you to repeat my testing.
>
> We could spend weeks going back and forth on that, and neither of us has
> weeks to spare.
>
> "To fulfil contractual obligations" I'll mail you the tarfile I send
> out each time I'm asked for this; but I haven't updated that tarfile
> in four years, whereas I'm frequently tweaking things to match what's
> needed (most recently and relevantly, I guess enabling 64kB hugepages
> for anon and shmem in addition to the PMD-sized).
>
> Please don't waste much of your time over trying to replicate what
> I'm doing: just give the scripts a glance, as a source for "oh,
> I could exercise something like that in my testing too" ideas.
>
> Yes, I limit physical memory by booting with mem=1G, and also apply
> lower memcg v1 limits.
>
> I made a point of saying "SSD" there because I'm not testing zram or
> zswap at all, whereas many others are testing those rather than disk.
>
> swapoff, and ext4 on loop0 on tmpfs, feature in what I exercise, but are
> NOT relevant to the corruption I'm seeing here - that can occur before
> any swapoff, and it's always on the kernel build in tmpfs: the parallel
> build in ext4 on loop0 on tmpfs completes successfully.

Thanks for the scripts. I kinda replicate your setup as follows:

1. boot a VM with 1GB memory and 8 cores;
2. mount a tmpfs with huge=always and 200GB;
3. clone the mainline kernel and use x86_64 defconfig (my gcc 14 gives
   errors during the old kernel builds), this takes about 2GB space,
   so some of tmpfs is already swapped to SSD;
4. create a new cgroupv2 and set memory.high to 700MB to induce memory
   swap during kernel compilation;
5. run “while true; do echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/compact_memory >/dev/null; done” to trigger compaction all the time;
6. build the kernel with make -j20.

I ran the above on mm-everything-2025-03-05-03-54 plus the xarray fix v3,
folio_split() with your fixes, and Minimize xa_node allocation during
xarry split patches. The repo is at: https://github.com/x-y-z/linux-dev/tree/shmem_fix-mm-everything-2025-03-05-03-54.

It has ran over night for 30 kernel builds and no crash happened so far.
I wonder if you can give my repo a shot.

I just boosted khugepaged like you did and see no immediate crash. But I will
let it run for longer.

Thanks.

Best Regards,
Yan, Zi


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-06 16:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-26 21:00 [PATCH v9 0/8] Buddy allocator like (or non-uniform) folio split Zi Yan
2025-02-26 21:00 ` [PATCH v9 1/8] xarray: add xas_try_split() to split a multi-index entry Zi Yan
2025-02-26 21:00 ` [PATCH v9 2/8] mm/huge_memory: add two new (not yet used) functions for folio_split() Zi Yan
2025-02-27  5:55   ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-02-27 15:14     ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-02-27 15:42       ` Zi Yan
2025-03-04 11:49   ` Hugh Dickins
2025-03-04 16:20     ` Zi Yan
2025-03-04 20:29       ` Andrew Morton
2025-03-04 20:34         ` Zi Yan
2025-03-05 21:03       ` Hugh Dickins
2025-03-05 21:10         ` Zi Yan
2025-03-05 22:38           ` Hugh Dickins
2025-03-06 16:21             ` Zi Yan [this message]
2025-03-07 15:23               ` Zi Yan
2025-03-10  8:54               ` Hugh Dickins
2025-03-10 15:35                 ` Zi Yan
2025-03-05 19:45     ` Zi Yan
2025-03-05 20:50       ` Hugh Dickins
2025-03-05 21:08         ` Zi Yan
2025-03-05 21:49           ` Hugh Dickins
2025-03-06  9:19           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-06 16:27             ` Zi Yan
2025-03-07 17:46               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-26 21:00 ` [PATCH v9 3/8] mm/huge_memory: move folio split common code to __folio_split() Zi Yan
2025-02-26 21:00 ` [PATCH v9 4/8] mm/huge_memory: add buddy allocator like (non-uniform) folio_split() Zi Yan
2025-02-26 21:00 ` [PATCH v9 5/8] mm/huge_memory: remove the old, unused __split_huge_page() Zi Yan
2025-02-26 21:00 ` [PATCH v9 6/8] mm/huge_memory: add folio_split() to debugfs testing interface Zi Yan
2025-02-26 21:00 ` [PATCH v9 7/8] mm/truncate: use buddy allocator like folio split for truncate operation Zi Yan
2025-03-02  3:52   ` Zi Yan
2025-02-26 21:00 ` [PATCH v9 8/8] selftests/mm: add tests for folio_split(), buddy allocator like split Zi Yan

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