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From: "Loke, Chetan" <Chetan.Loke@netscout.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	Steven Whitehouse <swhiteho@redhat.com>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, neilb@suse.de, dm-devel@redhat.com,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@gmail.com>,
	Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	"Darrick J.Wong" <djwong@us.ibm.com>
Subject: RE: [Lsf-pc] [dm-devel]  [LSF/MM TOPIC] a few storage topics
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 11:40:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D3F292ADF945FB49B35E96C94C2061B915A64111@nsmail.netscout.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120125224614.GM30782@redhat.com>

> From: Andrea Arcangeli [mailto:aarcange@redhat.com]
> Sent: January 25, 2012 5:46 PM

....

> Way more important is to have feedback on the readahead hits and be
> sure when readahead is raised to the maximum the hit rate is near 100%
> and fallback to lower readaheads if we don't get that hit rate. But
> that's not a VM problem and it's a readahead issue only.
> 

A quick google showed up - http://kerneltrap.org/node/6642 

Interesting thread to follow. I haven't looked further as to what was
merged and what wasn't.

A quote from the patch - " It works by peeking into the file cache and
check if there are any history pages present or accessed."
Now I don't understand anything about this but I would think digging the
file-cache isn't needed(?). So, yes, a simple RA hit-rate feedback could
be fine.

And 'maybe' for adaptive RA just increase the RA-blocks by '1'(or some
N) over period of time. No more smartness. A simple 10 line function is
easy to debug/maintain. That is, a scaled-down version of
ramp-up/ramp-down. Don't go crazy by ramping-up/down after every RA(like
SCSI LLDD madness). Wait for some event to happen.

I can see where Andrew Morton's concerns could be(just my
interpretation). We may not want to end up like a protocol state machine
code: tcp slow-start, then increase , then congestion, then let's
back-off. hmmm, slow-start is a problem for my business logic, so let's
speed-up slow-start ;).


Chetan

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-01-26 16:40 UTC|newest]

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2012-01-25 17:32                             ` James Bottomley
2012-01-25 18:28                               ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-25 18:37                                 ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-25 18:37                                 ` James Bottomley
2012-01-25 20:06                                   ` Chris Mason
2012-01-25 22:46                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2012-01-25 22:58                                       ` Jan Kara
2012-01-26  8:59                                       ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-01-26 16:40                                       ` Loke, Chetan [this message]
2012-01-26 17:00                                         ` Andreas Dilger
2012-01-26 17:16                                           ` Loke, Chetan
2012-02-03 12:37                                         ` Wu Fengguang
2012-01-26 22:38                                     ` Dave Chinner
2012-01-26 16:17                                   ` Loke, Chetan
2012-01-25 18:44                                 ` Boaz Harrosh

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