From: "Loke, Chetan" <Chetan.Loke@netscout.com>
To: Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Konrad Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: RE: [RFC] non-preemptible kernel socket for RAMster
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 13:52:17 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <D3F292ADF945FB49B35E96C94C2061B91257D6FD@nsmail.netscout.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6147447c-ecab-43ea-9b4a-1ff64b2089f0@default>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Magenheimer [mailto:dan.magenheimer@oracle.com]
> Sent: July 05, 2011 1:25 PM
> To: Loke, Chetan; netdev@vger.kernel.org
> Cc: Konrad Wilk; linux-mm
> Subject: RE: [RFC] non-preemptible kernel socket for RAMster
>
> > From: Loke, Chetan [mailto:Chetan.Loke@netscout.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:37 AM
> > To: Dan Magenheimer; netdev@vger.kernel.org
> > Cc: Konrad Wilk; linux-mm
> > Subject: RE: [RFC] non-preemptible kernel socket for RAMster
> >
> > > In working on a kernel project called RAMster* (where RAM on a
> > > remote system may be used for clean page cache pages and for swap
> > > pages), I found I have need for a kernel socket to be used when
> >
> > How is RAMster+swap different than NBD's (pending etc?)support for
> SWAP
> > over NBD?
>
> Hi Chetan --
>
> Thanks for your question.
>
> I may be ignorant of details about NBD, but did some quick
> research using google. If I understand correctly, swap over
> NBD is still writing to a configured swap disk on the remote
Hi - I thought NBD-server needs a backing store(a file).
Now the file itself could reside on a RAM-drive or disk-drive etc.
And so a remote NBD(disk or RAM) can be mounted locally as a swap
device.
The local client should still see it as a block device.
I haven't used the RAM-drive feature myself but you may want to check if
it
works or even borrow that logic in your code.
> machine. RAMster is swapping to *RAM* on the remote machine.
> The idea is that most machines are very overprovisioned in
> RAM, and are rarely using all of their RAM, especially when
> a machine is (mostly) idle. In other words, the "max of
> the sums" of RAM usage on a group of machines is much lower
> than the "sum of the max" of RAM usage.
>
> So if the network is sufficiently faster than disk for
> moving a page of data, RAMster provides a significant
> performance improvement. OR RAMster may allow a significant
> reduction in the total amount of RAM across a data center.
>
> The version of RAMster I am working on now is really
> a proof-of-concept that works over sockets, using the
> ocfs2 cluster layer. One can easily envision a future
> "exo-fabric" which allows one machine to write to the
> RAM of another machine... for this future hardware,
> RAMster becomes much more interesting.
>
Or you can also try scst-in-RAM mode(if you want to experiment with
different fabrics).
> Thanks,
> Dan
Thanks
Chetan Loke
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-07-05 17:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-07-05 15:54 Dan Magenheimer
2011-07-05 16:30 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-05 17:25 ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-07-05 18:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-07-05 19:07 ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-07-05 16:36 ` Loke, Chetan
2011-07-05 17:25 ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-07-05 17:52 ` Loke, Chetan [this message]
2011-07-05 19:18 ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-07-05 22:27 ` Loke, Chetan
2011-07-06 1:05 ` Dan Magenheimer
2011-07-06 18:12 ` Loke, Chetan
2011-07-07 15:34 ` Dan Magenheimer
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