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From: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
To: "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v5 0/7] mseal system mappings
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2025 11:34:07 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CD0870ED-6857-45EF-9C28-F27475964D71@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fyqlqgtbscwh4fiwmjtkb74k4ratlelwh2vzfyaeatbc3tcicb@5uvfy4hq5xde>



On February 13, 2025 10:35:21 AM PST, "Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com> wrote:
>* Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org> [250212 17:05]:
>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 11:24:35AM +0000, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
>> > On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 03:21:48AM +0000, jeffxu@chromium.org wrote:
>> > > From: Jeff Xu <jeffxu@chromium.org>
>> > >
>> > > The commit message in the first patch contains the full description of
>> > > this series.
>> > 
>> > Sorry to nit, but it'd be useful to reproduce in the cover letter too! But
>> > this obviously isn't urgent, just be nice when we un-RFC.
>> 
>> I advised Jeff against this because I've found it can sometimes cause
>> "thread splitting" in that some people reply to the cover letter, and
>> some people reply to the first patch, etc. I've tended to try to keep
>> cover letters very general, with the bulk of the prose in the first
>> patch.
>
>Interesting idea, but I think thread splitting is less of a concern than
>diluting the meaning of a patch by including a lengthy change log with a
>fraction of the text being about the code that follows.
>
>I think this is the reason for a cover letter in the first place; not
>just version control.  After all, we could tack the version information
>into the first patch too and avoid it being in the final commit message.

Okay, so to be clear: you'd prefer to put the rationales and other stuff in the cover, and put more specific details in the first patch? I've not liked this because cover letters aren't (except for akpm's trees) included anywhere in git, which makes archeology much harder.

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-13 19:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-12  3:21 jeffxu
2025-02-12  3:21 ` [RFC PATCH v5 1/7] mseal, system mappings: kernel config and header change jeffxu
2025-02-12  3:31   ` Randy Dunlap
2025-02-12  3:40     ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-12 15:05   ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-02-13 17:15     ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-13 18:29       ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-02-13 20:11         ` Kees Cook
2025-02-13 20:54           ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-02-13 22:00             ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-14  0:14               ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-02-14  1:10                 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-02-14 14:39                   ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-14 14:59                     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-14 15:18                       ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-12  3:21 ` [RFC PATCH v5 2/7] selftests: x86: test_mremap_vdso: skip if vdso is msealed jeffxu
2025-02-12 13:03   ` Thomas Weißschuh
2025-02-13 14:14     ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-13 19:28       ` Kees Cook
2025-02-13 22:20         ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-14  2:52           ` Kees Cook
2025-02-14 14:15             ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-12  3:21 ` [RFC PATCH v5 3/7] mseal, system mappings: enable x86-64 jeffxu
2025-02-12  3:21 ` [RFC PATCH v5 4/7] mseal, system mappings: enable arm64 jeffxu
2025-02-12  3:21 ` [RFC PATCH v5 5/7] mseal, system mappings: enable uml architecture jeffxu
2025-02-12  3:21 ` [RFC PATCH v5 6/7] mseal, system mappings: uprobe mapping jeffxu
2025-02-12  3:21 ` [RFC PATCH v5 7/7] mseal, system mappings: update mseal.rst jeffxu
2025-02-12 11:24 ` [RFC PATCH v5 0/7] mseal system mappings Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-12 12:37   ` Pedro Falcato
2025-02-12 14:01     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-02-12 14:08       ` Johannes Berg
2025-02-13 19:59       ` Pedro Falcato
2025-02-13 20:47         ` Kees Cook
2025-02-18 23:18           ` Pedro Falcato
2025-02-19 13:46             ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2025-02-19 17:17             ` enh
2025-02-23  2:05             ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-12 22:05   ` Kees Cook
2025-02-13 14:20     ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-13 18:35     ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-02-13 19:34       ` Kees Cook [this message]
2025-02-13 20:10         ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-02-13 14:19   ` Jeff Xu
2025-02-12  3:32 jeffxu

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